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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2014 20:24:34 GMT -1
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Post by notanimby on Feb 17, 2014 20:29:10 GMT -1
His boss won't be chuffed in the slightest |
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Post by ozneil on Feb 18, 2014 18:34:56 GMT -1
Read the following in News.com.au Apart from drug bust its great to see it was in co-operation with Pakistan Navy ship. Papers are so often only interested in bad news (ok so good news doesnt sell papers) |
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Post by bormes on Feb 19, 2014 16:55:06 GMT -1
not too long ago a major drug player was being observed and information came to light that he had a new phone and all the info for the phone was available to our SDEA people.
it took them almost four weeks to have the permissions and risk assessments done and by that time they only managed three days before the scumbag changed his phone again so the opportunity was lost to gather a lot motor info.
the same people in the SDEA were helping the Swedish Police in regard to a Swedish grower and dealer and similar information came to light and the expectations of the SDEA people were very low as they were judging the Swedes as they judged our own people.
imagine their surprise and delight when the same evening the Swedish Police were able to listen in to the person concerned until they changed phones again.
this is an example of when some things should be allowed quicker than the normal channels and the phone companies should be FORCED to comply with the Police. I am in favour of privacy but when evidence is there it should be acted on immediately.
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Post by notanimby on Feb 19, 2014 21:33:04 GMT -1
not too long ago a major drug player was being observed and information came to light that he had a new phone and all the info for the phone was available to our SDEA people. it took them almost four weeks to have the permissions and risk assessments done and by that time they only managed three days before the scumbag changed his phone again so the opportunity was lost to gather a lot motor info. the same people in the SDEA were helping the Swedish Police in regard to a Swedish grower and dealer and similar information came to light and the expectations of the SDEA people were very low as they were judging the Swedes as they judged our own people. imagine their surprise and delight when the same evening the Swedish Police were able to listen in to the person concerned until they changed phones again. this is an example of when some things should be allowed quicker than the normal channels and the phone companies should be FORCED to comply with the Police. I am in favour of privacy but when evidence is there it should be acted on immediately. Are the phones tapped at Ibrox yet?  |
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Post by ozneil on Feb 19, 2014 22:18:32 GMT -1
not too long ago a major drug player was being observed and information came to light that he had a new phone and all the info for the phone was available to our SDEA people. it took them almost four weeks to have the permissions and risk assessments done and by that time they only managed three days before the scumbag changed his phone again so the opportunity was lost to gather a lot motor info. the same people in the SDEA were helping the Swedish Police in regard to a Swedish grower and dealer and similar information came to light and the expectations of the SDEA people were very low as they were judging the Swedes as they judged our own people. imagine their surprise and delight when the same evening the Swedish Police were able to listen in to the person concerned until they changed phones again. this is an example of when some things should be allowed quicker than the normal channels and the phone companies should be FORCED to comply with the Police. I am in favour of privacy but when evidence is there it should be acted on immediately. According to Edward Snowden governments dont seem to have that problem |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 23:44:42 GMT -1
Edward was elected as Glasgow University rector yesterday.
Sent a message to the students today from wherever he's holed up.
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Post by ozneil on Feb 19, 2014 23:59:49 GMT -1
Edward was elected as Glasgow University rector yesterday. Sent a message to the students today from wherever he's holed up. GEEEEEEEs Well I suppose it computes. This is certainly in the right thread  Dont you just hate bad puns  |
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Post by peony on Feb 20, 2014 14:04:36 GMT -1
I don't have much regard for Snowden. There are a couple of reasons: he tricked fellow employees into giving him their passwords and cost them their careers. He lied about that. The second reason is that he has released so much information that doesn't pertain to the government spying on people that one must question his motive. I would have respected him much more had he stayed and fought, like others have done when fighting for a cause. I think he's just another media whore.
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Post by notanimby on Feb 20, 2014 16:23:13 GMT -1
I don't have much regard for Snowden. There are a couple of reasons: he tricked fellow employees into giving him their passwords and cost them their careers. He lied about that. The second reason is that he has released so much information that doesn't pertain to the government spying on people that one must question his motive. I would have respected him much more had he stayed and fought, like others have done when fighting for a cause. I think he's just another media whore. I've worked in IT for nearly 30 years - NOTHING, I REPEAT NOTHING is totally secure - just varying levels of insecurity. I've taken part in disciplinary procedures were people have handed out their access passwords to someone else - I've no sympathy whatsoever for people who do that - sacking them sure as hell focuses the attentions of of others on the matter, well for a time at least. If you're daft enough to reveal personal access codes then you have no place in my company or any I do business for. Cannot afford financially to have it any other way. At my current client they are averaging about a dozen folk a month ( and just from the IT dept alone - you just wouldn't believe it, people who are supposed to know better) being sacked for emailing externally, unprotected by passwords or encrypted in other ways documents that are company owned. They are being emailed to bank suppliers, stuff like quote requests, technical plans statements of work etc - not always the most secretive, highly commercial data but non-descript every day stuff too - no one has any sympathy for them, warnings are issued regularly I've only limited knowledge on his character but I've heard nothing to make me distrust his motives. Information is power, especially that secretly held, breaking that cycle is a breath of fresh air for all - I'm just amazed it doesn't happen more often.......................or does it? |
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Post by ozneil on Feb 20, 2014 18:31:59 GMT -1
I know that Nota will be absolutely correct about the lax behavior of IT guys and their passwords etc. Even so Snowden, for whatever motives, has betrayed the trust placed in him by his fellow workers.
I am not sure of the powers or duties of the rector of Glasgow University but do you think it bodes well when the future leaders of a soon to be independent country, students of one of its foremost university, elect a guy who cannot be trusted and whose motives are unclear?
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Post by notanimby on Feb 20, 2014 19:47:11 GMT -1
I know that Nota will be absolutely correct about the lax behavior of IT guys and their passwords etc. Even so Snowden, for whatever motives, has betrayed the trust placed in him by his fellow workers. I am not sure of the powers or duties of the rector of Glasgow University but do you think it bodes well when the future leaders of a soon to be independent country, students of one of its foremost university, elect a guy who cannot be trusted and whose motives are unclear? Well that description could apply to many politicians past n present. When it comes to access codes and passwords, the safest, sensible thing is do not tell anyone what they are, for most companies nowadays its part of yer contractual obligations not to share such information. Under UK employment laws it can be lassoed as gross misconduct, which can mean instant or summary dismissals, some may see that as harsh, but would you gleefully hand out yer pin for yer bank account to anyone. Here banks will refuse to re-I bourse you if you do that and whoever you tellt steals he cash from an atm. He's no different, from the Scottish lad wae aspergers who hacked into NASA etc looking for details on aliens, he found it easy because the IT security was either lax or non-existent. In the UK everyone is covered by the Official Secrets Act, you don't even have to have signed it o be covered by it, as most folk think. Whistleblowers are not exempt funnily enough As another example of this rank stupidity on keeping stuff secret, there is a book called Beneath The City Streets, iby peter laurie, ts about civil defence in the UK, the author compiled it using freely available information, from libraries, planning applications etc etc. When he had his draft copy, he sent it off to the MOD telling them all about it and to let him know if they had any concerns, he would take it out, they got back to him saying he had secret information in his book they wanted removed, but they couldn't tell him what it was as it was a secret. He published it anyways, nothing untoward happened to him for doing so. Establishment secrecy is the way in Whitehall and Westminster, to such an extent that they get court injunctions to prevent someone publishing stuff but entirely forget to get a separate injunction in Scotland - see Spycatcher which could freely bought in Edinburgh whilst banned in London -madness Even today some folks try and get injunctions to prevent olk publishing stuff on the internet, might as well hold back the tide with a teaspoon |
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Post by ozneil on Feb 20, 2014 19:56:33 GMT -1
Wat ya mean many politicians........ should be MOST
They tried without success to get Spycather banned here too. All that happened was sales shot up as people bought it to find out why it should be banned
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Post by notanimby on Feb 20, 2014 20:40:51 GMT -1
Wat ya mean many politicians........ should be MOSTThey tried without success to get Spycather banned here too. All that happened was sales shot up as people bought it to find out why it should be banned Did ye ever read it, it was awful? I bought mine in Germany as I was there during its release, in Edinburgh there was a premium to be paid on it, many copies were smuggled souf |
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Post by ozneil on Feb 20, 2014 20:46:28 GMT -1
Wat ya mean many politicians........ should be MOSTThey tried without success to get Spycather banned here too. All that happened was sales shot up as people bought it to find out why it should be banned Did ye ever read it, it was awful? I bought mine in Germany as I was there during its release, in Edinburgh there was a premium to be paid on it, many copies were smuggled souf I tried to read it but gave up.... luckily it was borrowed |
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