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Post by ozneil on Dec 31, 2014 18:19:07 GMT -1
Ive never even heard of Breaking Bad and I dont think I want too judging by the remarks here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2014 20:23:31 GMT -1
I've never seen Breakin Bad either............but crystal meth is not a big problem in Scotland, probably due to coke and smak being uber cheap Re meth, not yet, anyway, Nota. No point in denying we, like everywhere else, have a drug problem. Only today there was a raid in Springburn, huge haul of smack found. These people are utter scum. Coke's not as prevalent as it was though. Thank fuck, it's such a boring drug, so TEDIOUS being around anyone that's on it. Dull fuckwits. Ket's so cheap here, a few quid a pop, a horrible drug that in excess causes uber-violent reactions, which is why I asked Oz if it was that. Fortunately it doesn't have such addictive qualities, though there are still casualties. You see a fair bit of abuse of it at festivals...(I'll say no more..other than that we take best care of kids as if they were our own..) Probably good to remember though that there are trillions of people addicted to prescription drugs too. Fair enough to crack down on drink-driving and lower the limit in Scotland this week. I do think though, we need to do more about drug-driving.
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Post by bormes on Jan 2, 2015 15:17:55 GMT -1
I genuinely do NOT think the new drunk driving limit will make a bit of difference. The amount between the last limit and the new one is so small that frankly that tiny difference is a political move by the SNP. The drunk who drives, will ignore ANY limit. Regards the drugs, I totally agree, however I differ from Rolo in thinking Coke is in the decline in Glasgow, the biggest users by FAR are professional users, Lawyesr, Doctors, Dentist, Police estate agents Bankers etc., It is considered a recreational drug and many, many people, particularly young lawyers want it decriminalised. If we spent half as much on education about drink, drugs and healthy living with iconic people pop stars footballers etc., showing a different way of life, I personally think it would leak onto the young ones growing up and help to make our society change slightly so that the drug taking pop star or the idea of drug taking, hard drinking is a way to go like a rebel. It might help.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 19:07:36 GMT -1
I genuinely do NOT think the new drunk driving limit will make a bit of difference. The amount between the last limit and the new one is so small that frankly that tiny difference is a political move by the SNP. The drunk who drives, will ignore ANY limit. Regards the drugs, I totally agree, however I differ from Rolo in thinking Coke is in the decline in Glasgow, the biggest users by FAR are professional users, Lawyesr, Doctors, Dentist, Police estate agents Bankers etc., It is considered a recreational drug and many, many people, particularly young lawyers want it decriminalised. If we spent half as much on education about drink, drugs and healthy living with iconic people pop stars footballers etc., showing a different way of life, I personally think it would leak onto the young ones growing up and help to make our society change slightly so that the drug taking pop star or the idea of drug taking, hard drinking is a way to go like a rebel. It might help. Re drink-driving, I agree Bormes, that those who've always disregarded it will continue to hammer it and drive anyway. Everyone I know who's driving the next day is now seriously limiting what they drink the night before, to minimal or nothing at all, just in case. So many factors involved anyway: like if you have a glass or two of wine on an empty stomach you could be over the limit but if you've had a big meal, you're likely not.. That's why I think the penalties need looked at and graded-- at least in the short term as everyone gets used to the new limits? Re coke, yeah, I'm only menntioning what I see in my own music circles, it has definitely declined in the past 10 years or so. Though it's true it's aye been the drug of choice in the professions since the 80s. Doesn't do that much physical harm *recreationally* apart from people like me wanting to punch users in the face cos they're so chemically-induced overconfident and that's hard work... hahaha Re education, the really hard-drinking, drug abusers on the music scene are a thing of the past now. The industry's changed, and the vast majority of musicians are now in control of their own affairs, not having big labels in charge of their careers any more--and attending to their every whim. They're much more autonomous and responsible now and partly because of the times we live in, far more into healthy living. Yes it's true! Anyway, drug problems dog us nevertheless and we all know the one that causes the most damage here. I'd like to see the SCEA concentrating on the horror that is heroin-first and foremost. Damage not just to the person addicted but to society as a whole, as much crime is committed because of it--from petty shoplifting to burglary, robbery, mugging and indeed organised crime. Cheery wee post here...sorry! But it's the topic we're on!
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Post by notanimby on Jan 2, 2015 19:17:18 GMT -1
I genuinely do NOT think the new drunk driving limit will make a bit of difference. The amount between the last limit and the new one is so small that frankly that tiny difference is a political move by the SNP. The drunk who drives, will ignore ANY limit. Regards the drugs, I totally agree, however I differ from Rolo in thinking Coke is in the decline in Glasgow, the biggest users by FAR are professional users, Lawyesr, Doctors, Dentist, Police estate agents Bankers etc., It is considered a recreational drug and many, many people, particularly young lawyers want it decriminalised. If we spent half as much on education about drink, drugs and healthy living with iconic people pop stars footballers etc., showing a different way of life, I personally think it would leak onto the young ones growing up and help to make our society change slightly so that the drug taking pop star or the idea of drug taking, hard drinking is a way to go like a rebel. It might help. Re drink-driving, I agree Bormes, that those who've always disregarded it will continue to hammer it and drive anyway. Everyone I know who's driving the next day is now seriously limiting what they drink the night before, to minimal or nothing at all, just in case. So many factors involved anyway: like if you have a glass or two of wine on an empty stomach you could be over the limit but if you've had a big meal, you're likely not.. That's why I think the penalties need looked at and graded-- at least in the short term as everyone gets used to the new limits? Re coke, yeah, I'm only menntioning what I see in my own music circles, it has definitely declined in the past 10 years or so. Though it's true it's aye been the drug of choice in the professions since the 80s. Doesn't do that much physical harm *recreationally* apart from people like me wanting to punch users in the face cos they're so chemically-induced overconfident and that's hard work... hahaha Re education, the really hard-drinking, drug abusers on the music scene are a thing of the past now. The industry's changed, and the vast majority of musicians are now in control of their own affairs, not having big labels in charge of their careers any more--and attending to their every whim. They're much more autonomous and responsible now and partly because of the times we live in, far more into healthy living. Yes it's true!Anyway, drug problems dog us nevertheless and we all know the one that causes the most damage here. I'd like to see the SCEA concentrating on the horror that is heroin-first and foremost. Damage not just to the person addicted but to society as a whole, as much crime is committed because of it--from petty shoplifting to burglary, robbery, mugging and indeed organised crime. Cheery wee post here...sorry! But it's the topic we're on! jeezo - shirley not, no more budding keith moons or ozzy osbournes....................................... In saying that, a certain infamous leadsinger and former squeeze of kate moss is now in rehab in the Far East ( not Embra) , has been there for the past 3/4 weeks, an old friend of Mrs Nota's his manager and he's oot there tae - if he's on the straight and narrow, jings
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Post by ozneil on Jan 2, 2015 19:21:00 GMT -1
sorry to lighten it a bit but its on the drug subject
Did this hit UK paperd
News.com.au
Our drink drive laws are pretty tough (3 Scotches in an hour and you are pushing the limit) and after a good night on turps the limit can still be exceeded the following day.
Drugs are also tested for roadside now specially long haul truckies but also randomly on motorists as well
Last year we had the lowest road fatality number (334) in NSW since 1923!!! So something is working
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2015 19:43:29 GMT -1
jeezo - shirley not, no more budding keith moons or ozzy osbournes....................................... In saying that, a certain infamous leadsinger and former squeeze of kate moss is now in rehab in the Far East ( not Embra) , has been there for the past 3/4 weeks, an old friend of Mrs Nota's his manager and he's oot there tae - if he's on the straight and narrow, jings He's aye been a bit of a 'shambles, substance-wise, but fair play to him for keeping up the rehab habit, I say. Fact is, no promoter worldwide can be arsed booking an act that's unreliable. Not any more! Fans also won't put up with cancellations, showing up onstage really late or really shit performances either, so it's not in an artist's interests to give it chaotic lifestyle. Interesting that nobody else seems to have a view on drug-driving thus far.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 22:44:52 GMT -1
Back on topic:
I'd not been in the City Centre since the day of the accident but today on the way to work I stopped by to take in the thousands of tributes at the Square.
The weather was truly atrocious: mental horizontal rain, people were cowed under their umbrellas and running for cover.
I literally bumped into another lady about my age: we both had our hoods up, slightly blindsided. We both said 'Sorry' at the same instant, as you do. But much much more moving was the mutual silent expression of utter sorrow for those stricken and the knowledge it could have been us-- or far worse, ours.
Police Scotland said today their report to the Scottish Government will be complete by the end of January but will not be made public. They also said there's no question of charges against the lorry driver who got out of hospital today.
I think the report should be made public. If it has indeed been a random accident, and there's no evidence otherwise, then I think we need to know that--- and the sooner the better.
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Post by bormes on Jan 7, 2015 23:24:56 GMT -1
The Net has people claiming the driver is a muslim that he had no injury that can be found by any doctor although he is now released, and it happened on the same day similar although deliberate incidents happened in other Eu Cities!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2015 23:47:32 GMT -1
The Net is full of crazy people I think it's incumbent on Police Scotland that they release their report publically, if not least to silence these ridiculous conspiracy theories.
Let's keep the heid.
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Post by notanimby on Jan 8, 2015 7:52:40 GMT -1
The Net has people claiming the driver is a muslim that he had no injury that can be found by any doctor although he is now released, and it happened on the same day similar although deliberate incidents happened in other Eu Cities!! yep i read of one on an extreme RC website, who want the crusades restarted - obviously nae idea that as its a glesga coonsil van, the chap that was the driver wiz merr likely tae be an RC - fukkin nutters
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2015 21:39:26 GMT -1
The Net has people claiming the driver is a muslim that he had no injury that can be found by any doctor although he is now released, and it happened on the same day similar although deliberate incidents happened in other Eu Cities!! yep i read of one on an extreme RC website, who want the crusades restarted - obviously nae idea that as its a glesga coonsil van, the chap that was the driver wiz merr likely tae be an RC - fukkin nutters Exactly why I think Polis Scotland need to make their accident enquiry public, Nota, and the sooner the better. Where we all are is that the minute any major incident happens, there's an initial question in all of our minds over whether it's terrorism. Sadly that's become the norm. It's not new either; particularly in certain incidents in the UK in the 70s and 80s, where it was exactly the same, folks wondering initially if it was down to Ireland-based terrorism. Sometimes it was, sometimes it wasn't. Same all over the world, whether US, Norway, the Basque country, Bali, every time we hear of a major incident, from a bombing to a shooting, to a plane going astray, the first instinct is....was this terrorism. Sometimes accidents just happen. And why we need to hear from our government agencies early on, that it's just been so.
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Post by bormes on Jan 10, 2015 10:50:45 GMT -1
I do NOT think the driver was islamic nor do I think a deliberate act was perpetrated, however, like the Clutha and Dunblane, the time it will take to get any information is outrageous and allows rubbish and exaggerations to be written.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2015 19:31:01 GMT -1
I do NOT think the driver was islamic nor do I think a deliberate act was perpetrated, however, like the Clutha and Dunblane, the time it will take to get any information is outrageous and allows rubbish and exaggerations to be written. Too true, Bormes. It's horrifying that whenever a major incident happens everyone's first thoughts are terrorism, rather than remembering that sometimes tragic accidents just happen. Re Dunblane, though, that was an act of terrorism in my book, albeit not *religiously* motivated. It wasn't until years later the info was released that *he who shall not be named* was aye a dangerous nutter, known to the authorities. I honestly do NOT UNDERSTAND why the Police Scotland report on the George Square accident is not being made public. Is someone somewhere worried about being sued or what? Is it an attempt to force an expensive public enquiry or what? I think our processes should be more transparent. Keeping things from public knowledge is treating the public like we're somehow 'inferior' and also leaves those in 'power' much more open to criticism that may--or may not---be warranted. After all, the Police and City Councils are PUBLIC SERVANTS, not our imperial masters.... no?
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Post by bormes on Jan 11, 2015 19:38:36 GMT -1
Totally agree, However Dunblane is different, Hamilton was a procurer for paedos and is involved with all this VIP paedo stuff down south and in NI. He HAD been arrested a number of times but SOMEHOW the senior PF NEVER TOOK HIM TO COURT. He also had his firearm license renewed a number of times even though he was NOT a member of a club and in fact had been refused membership because of his behaviour with children and his threatening a mother of one of the children with a gun. Again he was charged but NEVER reached a court. I was personally the Pistol Secretary of the Callander Pistol Club who refused him entry and our committee refused his appeal and we were all amazed when his license was renewed. The senior policeman who gave him his permission for his license resigned.
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