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Post by ozneil on May 10, 2015 0:04:16 GMT -1
Bit of head scratching here ... Maybe something wrong with your system UKIP 12.5% of vote = 1 seat SNP 5% of vote = 56 seats doesnt seem right somehow SNP don't field candidates in rUK. SNP got 50% plus of the vote where they did. UKIP got nowhere near that in ANY constituency and their own leader was clearly deemed inelectable. Oh I know the reasons still doesnt seem right that 5% of votes in UK can get 56 seats while 12.5% of votes in UK can get 1 seat. These voters are people and they voted for what they wanted looks a bit like animal farm some voters are more equal than other voters. Not that I begrudge you your marvelous win for a second. It was well deserved and laboir needed a right good kicking in Scotland for their arrogance ( If it had been Tories I would have said exactly the same)
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 19:15:10 GMT -1
The current set up in the UKE was constructed to advantage the two horse race between Lab and Tory. First past the post. Electoral boundaries drawn and redrawn to favour the two major parties. Proportional representation seems much fairer and much more democratic to me. But neither Lab nor Tory are ever going to agree to that, because they prefer things exactly as they are. That said, it does have the succinct advantage that UKIP are nowhere, with one MP who isnt their party leader? Thousands of xenophobic, small minded Little Englanders spitting feathers now. They're so damned stupid they don't even know they're stupid.
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Post by ozneil on May 10, 2015 21:15:18 GMT -1
Remember the Average IQ is 100!!!
And a lot of lefties who swore to leave UK if Tories got in. Where will they go?
Any progressive Socialist EU countries? Greece?
Would they have them?
Commonwealth?
Canada ..... Conservative NZ......... National (right of Centre) Australia Lib/Nat Coalition (right of centre)
Getting a bit hard for them to find Utopia
NZ has proportional voting. It doesnt seem to have made a lot of difference to results Still 2 main parties but its very cumbersome .
Our preferential voting leads to the election of some real idiots in the Senate (our upper house)
NZ doesnt have an upper house and gets along fine.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 21:35:58 GMT -1
Scotland has plenty room for hard working folks with a social conscience. I believe a queue's already forming just north of Carlisle. Come away in, the kettle's on
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Post by ozneil on May 10, 2015 22:23:21 GMT -1
OK WAY OFF SUBJECT
Your plenty of room remark reminded me
Every time I see a TV programme on the wilds of Scotland, including the islands. I always check out location on Google Earth and everywhere ruins of houses and crofts from just a few walls to virtually intact houses its so sad seeing the ruins of all these houses every where from most isolated Glens to small islands these poor people were driven out to make room for sheep.
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Post by ozneil on May 11, 2015 4:50:21 GMT -1
OK back on thread
from My fav rt- wing hack Tim Blair
Bob Ellis is alabour speech writer commentator & sooth sayer
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 20:20:26 GMT -1
Indeed, it is said that a well-groomed senior citizen staked £30k on the result of the election, in a city centre bookies. His win estimated at £210k. As of just now, he has failed to collect his winnings. Clearly a man not troubled by cashflow. Hope he uses his winnings wisely, but I suspect not, somehow. I worked for Mecca Bookmakers for four years as a student, quite an eye-opener, mostly just everyday punters but a few high rollers whod routinely bet the price of a flat in one go. When they won, they believed they were on a roll, and couldnt walk out the door with their cash. Kept betting and mostly lost the lot. That's why I'm not much of a betting woman. That said, I'm putting a line on Eurovision Couple years back I saw an AMAZING talent over in Cat, they were 14/15 at the time and I've been raving about them since. If you fancy punting a few quid, go for Il Volo/Italy. I'm doing one bet for an outright win and another each way, top three. I hope I know my stuff. Instinct has served me well thus far!
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Post by ozneil on May 12, 2015 2:50:38 GMT -1
The intellectual left are a tad disappointed in your election result and show their grief From guess who wonder if the fruit objected woops wrong fruit sorry
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Post by ozneil on May 12, 2015 2:54:33 GMT -1
as soon as I did statistics in Principles of Economics I stopped betting.... its a mugs game.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 20:28:45 GMT -1
The intellectual left are a tad disappointed in your election result and show their grief From guess who wonder if the fruit objected woops wrong fruit sorry Lemme guess: Tim Blair. Despite her appearing to be a Notting Hill intellectual leftie, I quite like Phillipa Perry, she's good value. Very humane and great sense of humour. She's married to the famous artist Grayson Perry, quite the character, and oft seen in some rather fetching ladies' outfits. Bonkers, in a good way. Eccentricity's not quite extinct despite efforts to homogenise us all .
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2015 20:44:28 GMT -1
HahahaaHAAAAA, check this out! www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/thousands-call-north-england-become-9248178By strange coincidink, the first quote's from a woman who lives in the same Cheshire village as Mr R's extended family, both his parents ex pat Scots. They left for NYC when Mr R was 5, then moved to Kent and latterly Bramhall. Both parents kept their accent but Mr R, his sister and bro 'sound' English, tho after 30 years in Glasgow his veers towards the vernacular from time to time. Och aye the noo, our kid!
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Post by ozneil on May 13, 2015 21:12:20 GMT -1
Also Glad eccentricity isnt dead, we need eccentrics!
In my day Berwick was trying to move to Scotland.
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Post by notanimby on May 14, 2015 16:04:37 GMT -1
Also Glad eccentricity isnt dead, we need eccentrics! In my day Berwick was trying to move to Scotland. Still plenty of eccentrics in Scotland, we call them unionists, they are a disappearing endangered species. Unlike the rhino, no one is trying to save them
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Post by celyn on May 15, 2015 11:33:55 GMT -1
Oh, I know it's only a bit of fun*, but would that mean we could claim Anthony Burgess as a Scottish author? And maybe we could make Ewan McColl Scottish as well? * And it IS just a bit of fun, but sometimes little jokes serve as a quiet expression of something serious. No, I doubt Manchester or wherever really wants to be in Scotland, but underlying all this jolly merry funniosity, there is something quite serious being said by a lot of the northern bits of England. And will London bother to notice? Or bother to take the people's concerns seriously?
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Post by ozneil on May 15, 2015 21:24:06 GMT -1
Wordsworth would be another Scottish poet.
It has happened before in 19th century New South Wales was divided into 4 states Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria and New Zealand
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