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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 1:29:17 GMT -1
OK, I would really like some advice here, especially from Bormes, Nota and Peony? PLEASE! ;D I'm feeling really quite anxious. About 8.5 on the scale of 1-10. Actually make that 9. Reason being, last Saturday, we heard some barking sounds from out back in the mews cottage (where a young guy in his late 20s took up residence a few months back). Although he likes to party at weekends (fine by me!) it wasn't him that was barking... ;D Sunday evening, the wean spots a really quite large dog wandering up the front path. Thought nothing of it, probably a weekend guest chez the mews. Monday, same dog's giving it bark and again spotted out front in the garden. So tonight as I was lumbering up Cleveden Hill, I spotted the dog again, recognised it even before I did its owner, the said young neeb. Not quite sure who was walking who, two frisky young fellas, But anyway.... Natch I stopped and said hello. Warily, as I really am not comfortable around large dogs  I'd only met the neeb the once when he knocked the door and asked to borrow a corkscrew. Anyways, I made polite chat, as you do. "You have a new pet""? Well not quite, he says, he's a two year old puppy, he's been at my mum's and has just moved in with me." Fucksake, the thing's the size of a small horse....and those teeth, lordy!  "He's quite big for two" quoth I, tremulously." Is he a Dobermann?" 'No' quoth he. " Many people make that mistake, he's a Rottweiler". Look, it's this simple. I'm feeling scared about this dog being in our communal hall and pathway. He doesn't know me or mine. Will me or the wean coming in the front door freak him out because HE doesn't know US and thinks we're interlopers into 'his master's space'? I would like to like the dog but I am sure he'll get the vibe that I'm scared of him, as is the wean. She's on her summer break from Uni but is now feeling a bit scared of sitting out in the garden in case the dog takes a dislike to her (reasonable or not, I understand that). HELP! I'm really not sure where to put myself on this one.  and ps, the mews cottage is tiny and there's no place for the dog to run about. It just feels kinda wrong to me, on a few different levels. Outfront garden is shared between us and upstairs, mews owner only has access to the actual path down the side and not the wee bit of actual garden. Try telling the dog that! |
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Post by notanimby on May 22, 2013 5:28:00 GMT -1
OK, I would really like some advice here, especially from Bormes, Nota and Peony? PLEASE! ;D I'm feeling really quite anxious. About 8.5 on the scale of 1-10. Actually make that 9. Reason being, last Saturday, we heard some barking sounds from out back in the mews cottage (where a young guy in his late 20s took up residence a few months back). Although he likes to party at weekends (fine by me!) it wasn't him that was barking... ;D Sunday evening, the wean spots a really quite large dog wandering up the front path. Thought nothing of it, probably a weekend guest chez the mews. Monday, same dog's giving it bark and again spotted out front in the garden. So tonight as I was lumbering up Cleveden Hill, I spotted the dog again, recognised it even before I did its owner, the said young neeb. Not quite sure who was walking who, two frisky young fellas, But anyway.... Natch I stopped and said hello. Warily, as I really am not comfortable around large dogs I'd only met the neeb the once when he knocked the door and asked to borrow a corkscrew. Anyways, I made polite chat, as you do. "You have a new pet""? Well not quite, he says, he's a two year old puppy, he's been at my mum's and has just moved in with me." Fucksake, the thing's the size of a small horse....and those teeth, lordy! "He's quite big for two" quoth I, tremulously." Is he a Dobermann?" 'No' quoth he. " Many people make that mistake, he's a Rottweiler". Look, it's this simple. I'm feeling scared about this dog being in our communal hall and pathway. He doesn't know me or mine. Will me or the wean coming in the front door freak him out because HE doesn't know US and thinks we're interlopers into 'his master's space'? I would like to like the dog but I am sure he'll get the vibe that I'm scared of him, as is the wean. She's on her summer break from Uni but is now feeling a bit scared of sitting out in the garden in case the dog takes a dislike to her (reasonable or not, I understand that). HELP! I'm really not sure where to put myself on this one. and ps, the mews cottage is tiny and there's no place for the dog to run about. It just feels kinda wrong to me, on a few different levels. Outfront garden is shared between us and upstairs, mews owner only has access to the actual path down the side and not the wee bit of actual garden. Try telling the dog that! Mr B is our resident knowledgable person on this type of dug - his Sally is a lovely example of the breed My advice would be, get to know the dug and let it get to know you P.S was the corkscrew to get the remnants of a newly chewed up victim out from between the teeth of the dug  |
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Post by bormes on May 22, 2013 12:11:00 GMT -1
Give me a call Rolo.
My initial thoughts are that it sounds a friendly, socialised dog at the moment, however I do understand your fear of him if he is cooped up all day, he will become very protective of what he sees as his space.
That means, buy some dog biscuits and every time you see him out, give him a call by name, tall him to sit, then reward him with a wee biscuit. All that is assuming as a neebor you wish to be friends with them and said dog.
If the situation deteriorates, you have the lawon your side with regards the garden etc and the GCC and Police are really not keen on dogs or dog turds being around our green and pleasant city.
Rotties are quite dominant dogs and people should not put their face down to any dog's face to be friendly with a dog, it is the wrong signal, although meant by the human in a friendly manner, it is a dominance issue with a dog.
I would suggest the friendly way as believe it or not, once you have had the experience of having the friendship and love ( which is an unconditional love) of a dog it is a very moving and rewarding experience. Explain your fear to the young fellow and ask him to bring the dog into your house to associate with him in your space and remember the biscuits but make him do something like sit or lie down before giving the reward so that he gets to know you and wean. Give me a wee call if you wish I will walk round with Sally if you would want me to? Let me know, good luck, woof woof !!
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Post by notanimby on May 22, 2013 13:10:42 GMT -1
Give me a call Rolo. My initial thoughts are that it sounds a friendly, socialised dog at the moment, however I do understand your fear of him if he is cooped up all day, he will become very protective of what he sees as his space. That means, buy some dog biscuits and every time you see him out, give him a call by name, tall him to sit, then reward him with a wee biscuit. All that is assuming as a neebor you wish to be friends with them and said dog. If the situation deteriorates, you have the lawon your side with regards the garden etc and the GCC and Police are really not keen on dogs or dog turds being around our green and pleasant city. Rotties are quite dominant dogs and people should not put their face down to any dog's face to be friendly with a dog, it is the wrong signal, although meant by the human in a friendly manner, it is a dominance issue with a dog. I would suggest the friendly way as believe it or not, once you have had the experience of having the friendship and love ( which is an unconditional love) of a dog it is a very moving and rewarding experience. Explain your fear to the young fellow and ask him to bring the dog into your house to associate with him in your space and remember the biscuits but make him do something like sit or lie down before giving the reward so that he gets to know you and wean. Give me a wee call if you wish I will walk round with Sally if you would want me to? Let me know, good luck, woof woof !! See Roly -tellt ye Mr B would know........ |
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Post by peony on May 22, 2013 18:13:31 GMT -1
Oh, totally do NOT lean over the dog and put your face in his space, it's dangerous with any dog you don't know.
I would try to make friends with the young 'un and his hound. If the fella refuses (and you have spelled out your reasons) then I would have some other intervention.
My son had a rottie until recently and she was a great dog. Don't let the breed put you off.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2013 20:38:24 GMT -1
Give me a call Rolo. My initial thoughts are that it sounds a friendly, socialised dog at the moment, however I do understand your fear of him if he is cooped up all day, he will become very protective of what he sees as his space. That means, buy some dog biscuits and every time you see him out, give him a call by name, tall him to sit, then reward him with a wee biscuit. All that is assuming as a neebor you wish to be friends with them and said dog. If the situation deteriorates, you have the lawon your side with regards the garden etc and the GCC and Police are really not keen on dogs or dog turds being around our green and pleasant city. Rotties are quite dominant dogs and people should not put their face down to any dog's face to be friendly with a dog, it is the wrong signal, although meant by the human in a friendly manner, it is a dominance issue with a dog. I would suggest the friendly way as believe it or not, once you have had the experience of having the friendship and love ( which is an unconditional love) of a dog it is a very moving and rewarding experience. Explain your fear to the young fellow and ask him to bring the dog into your house to associate with him in your space and remember the biscuits but make him do something like sit or lie down before giving the reward so that he gets to know you and wean. Give me a wee call if you wish I will walk round with Sally if you would want me to? Let me know, good luck, woof woof !! Bormes, I thought you'd know, your Sally is such a lovely soul, she doesn't frighten me in the least! ;D Yes I do want to be friends with young neeb and Clay. And yes, it does concern me that he might be left alone a lot of the time, in a small space, sure. And having just been 'relocated'... Thanks you and Peony for the tip, now you see that was the first thing I did last night, instinctively. I kinda leant over as if to engage Clay. So that's good to know... In some ways I must come across as a bit foolish to you guys who're around dogs  I haven't been and neither has the wean and I'm conscious Clay might sense that. I suppose I'm concerned about the wean being on her own in hall and garden and that he sees her as invading his space....can the dog tell who lives here and who's a burglar, for example? I'm sorry, I'm really anxious, as you can no doubt tell! Fancy a meetup over the long weekend, Bormes? ;D |
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Post by ozneil on May 22, 2013 22:17:43 GMT -1
Get the dog on side and you have added protection.
You will become part of his pack
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Post by bormes on May 23, 2013 7:10:06 GMT -1
Delighted to meet Rolo, Sally lies in the Pub at my feet, yet when one of the staff come over she turns from a sleepy, slumbering sloth into a dynamic, want to please puppy, why?? Because the staff have things around them called,,,,,,, Biscuits !! Now how she can tell a staff member from a tourist is incredible!!
As everyone suggests, try for friendship with the dog and Biscuits break the ice !!
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Post by peony on May 23, 2013 16:16:46 GMT -1
Once introduced, Rolo, the dog will recognize you as friend. They are pretty sharp.
Also, it doesn't seem silly to me that you are nervous about the dog. Not at all.
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Post by ozneil on May 23, 2013 22:13:13 GMT -1
when we moved in here, in a cul-de-sac, about 10 years ago there was a big bitser called Sandy, mostly Labrador, who checked us out. He followed us round for a while keeping an eye on us and finally decided we "belonged" and thereafter was very friendly and merely wagged his tail when we passed his house, about 2 doors up. Occasionally when the mood took him he came out to say "Hello"
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2013 17:19:57 GMT -1
Once introduced, Rolo, the dog will recognize you as friend. They are pretty sharp. Also, it doesn't seem silly to me that you are nervous about the dog. Not at all. Maybe I've watched The Boys From Brazil once too often, Peony... but thanks! ;D Not much frightens me but that dug duz! |
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Post by westender on May 31, 2013 15:23:34 GMT -1
I understand your reticence, rolo.
Us dug lovers will encourage you to no be feart, give the dug a biscuit, make friends, he'll be a big softie really, etc etc.... the problem with all that being: yep, we'll prolly give good advice provided you're facing a situation involving other dug lovers who have sensible and well trained dugs, and have had sensible and well trained dugs for many years.
Too many dug situations these days involve bams who have not got well trained, sensible dugs. I can't advise, but I hope that bormes's and peony's advice is helpful to you.
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Post by peony on May 31, 2013 16:07:26 GMT -1
I think that is the heart of the issue - how to tell if a dog is a nice dog, even if it is not a calm dog. That is what you get from years of experience with dogs.
I agree with Westie, really, but I think it's worth trying to make friends cause it's in your area.
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Post by ozneil on May 31, 2013 21:26:14 GMT -1
luved this from UK  From a police dog. Produced after a lawyer asked for PC Peach's statement |
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2013 22:37:28 GMT -1
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Clay hasn't been around since the top of the week, though he was getting awfy 'barky' for a couple of days just before it all went quiet... Heard neeb in and out, sans Clay, since...wonder if he's had second thoughts about large dog in toty space...and all them walkies? If he comes back I'm gonna take your kind advice, all, ;D and do my best to make friends. Ultimately if we're all comfortable around him, it's no bad thing to have one very large dog about the place.... Point taken, all, re responsible owners-----that awful case in England last week gave me the heebie jeebies Thanks, folks. Good to have so many dog-people to chat to! |
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I'd only met the neeb the once when he knocked the door and asked to borrow a corkscrew.
I haven't been and neither has the wean and I'm conscious Clay might sense that. I suppose I'm concerned about the wean being on her own in hall and garden and that he sees her as invading his space....can the dog tell who lives here and who's a burglar, for example?
