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Post by ozneil on Mar 20, 2014 3:01:36 GMT -1
I like this little good news stories about ordinary people pitching in
letter from Today's Manly Daily
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Post by minime on Mar 20, 2014 12:53:04 GMT -1
I like this little good news stories about ordinary people pitching in letter from Today's Manly Daily So, real Oz men lift trees and read the Manly Daily!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2014 18:30:50 GMT -1
Hahaha!
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Post by ozneil on Mar 20, 2014 18:34:51 GMT -1
I like this little good news stories about ordinary people pitching in letter from Today's Manly Daily So, real Oz men lift trees and read the Manly Daily! NO WAY That's womans work!!!!
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Post by ozneil on Mar 20, 2014 21:48:30 GMT -1
MANLYEat ya heart out mini Beach Corso
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Post by ozneil on Mar 22, 2014 3:54:02 GMT -1
Decided to put this in here rather than in "Yes Declaration" as it lighter. You lot tell me that Scotland & Scottish people are a nation distinct from the English. Now this isnt quite true. In ancient times Scotland comprised several disparate peoples. The South West from Clyde down to Lake District were Scots from Ireland (you work that out). The East from about Anberdeen South to Yorkshire were Angles (from Denmark) North West of Central Valley were Gaels except for Outer Hebrides, Orkney, Shetland and NE Scotland which were Scandinavian (Hence the name of the County Sutherland Corrupted from Norwegian South Land) Mind you the whole lot was well & truly mixed up by umpteen penises So really a weejie is ethnically more akin to a guy from Cumbria than a guy from Caithness. My own mob first appeared in Shetland in 13th or 14th century, they came from Denmark. Then they turned up in Caithness Circa 1600. The first branch of family took up land in NSW 1n 1829. We got around! The only reason Scotland is one Nation is that the lands of smaller nations were conquered by King (buggered if I can remember his name..... Kenneth I think) the border between England and Scotland varied a lot over the centuries.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 4:26:18 GMT -1
You seem to have forgotten the Black Irish and the Vikings in there somewhere... We're a nation of mongrels, right enough. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR. But when folks refer to *differences* between Scotland and England they mostly mean not genetic heritage-- but values. And much of northern England, Ireland and Wales share such sentiments.
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Post by ozneil on Mar 22, 2014 4:38:22 GMT -1
You seem to have forgotten the Black Irish and the Vikings in there somewhere... We're a nation of mongrels, right enough. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR. But when folks refer to *differences* between Scotland and England they mostly mean not genetic heritage-- but values. And much of northern England, Ireland and Wales share such sentiments. YEP My mob were Vikings. We prefer the term settlers. Were the Black Irish the Scotii?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 19:27:14 GMT -1
The Black Irish: the theory is that survivors from the Spanish Armada settled (or should that be Viking'd) in Southern Ireland. Another is that the Spanish and Portuguese intermingled much earlier than this with the Irish peoples due to trading links. Genetic research has since proved that one particular gene is extremely common in both Ireland and the North West of Spain and Portugal. The reason for the name is the preponderance of dark-haired, dark-eyed, sallow-skinned Irish people as opposed to the more Anglo Saxon or Scandinavian fair skin, fair hair blue eyed, types. As we know the Irish also emigrated in huge numbers into Scotland. I knew nothing of this when I first forayed, for w*rk, into Europe; touring in Germany, Holland, Italy, and France but it wasn't till I got to work extensively in Spain that something odd happened. I felt very much *at home*, that I somehow *fitted in* despite having no Spanish at that time. So began my love affair with Spain. It didn't strike me till much later my mother's side of the family (plus me and my brother) ALL had very dark, almost raven hair, very dark eyes and sallow skin. (Although we haven't done a family tree, the talk went that my granddad's family were descended from Ireland). When I'm over there, people in shops, markets, restaurants you name it, always address me in Spanish or bring a Spanish or Catalan menu. This doesn't happen to my sister, who is blond and blue-eyed Maybe if I ever get to retire, I'll do that family tree on my mother's side. I'd LOVE to know what the link is that makes me feel like Cat is my second home.
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Post by ozneil on Mar 22, 2014 20:03:03 GMT -1
Genealogy is fascinating. Mrs Oz did hers on Fathers side back to Inverneshire in 1700s and her mothers side back to Strathaven in 1700s before that Scots ancestry is very hard to trace cause surnames were not used ans registration of kids wasnr done unless baptised and the minister recorded it My mothers family is from South Lanarkshire going back to late 1600s. We used Scottish Genealogy in Edinburgh and they were most thorough. My ancestry is fairly obvious, red hair (well was once ) hazel eyes burly build, fair skin where not exposed to sun, tanned elsewhere look a bit like a layer cake when not dressed. Funny thing you should say you felt right at home immediately in Cat. Mrs Oz felt the same on arrival here much more so than she did in Scotland.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 20:38:59 GMT -1
Genealogy is fascinating. Mrs Oz did hers on Fathers side back to Invernesh*te in 1700s and her mothers side back to Strathaven in 1700s before that Scots ancestry is very hard to trace cause surnames were not used ans registration of kids wasnr done unless baptised and the minister recorded it My mothers family is from South Lanarksh*te going back to late 1600s. We used Scottish Genealogy in Edinburgh and they were most thorough. My ancestry is fairly obvious, red hair (well was once ) hazel eyes burly build, fair skin where not exposed to sun, tanned elsewhere look a bit like a layer cake when not dressed. Funny thing you should say you felt right at home immediately in Cat. Mrs Oz felt the same on arrival here much more so than she did in Scotland. That's interesting Oz, your mother's and Mrs Oz's mother's families both from Lanarksh*te originally? Sounds like you yourself have very strong Celtic genes going on there, Oz! So how did you and Mrs Oz meet? Re *feeling at home*, I've felt that all over Spain from north to south, east to west but never more strongly than in Cat. Interested to know if Mrs Oz had other family that had migrated to Aus in the dim and distant?
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Post by ozneil on Mar 22, 2014 20:47:02 GMT -1
Yes our mums were both pure Celt fair hair, not blonde, blue eyed.
We met at a den of iniquity near the University called the QM. She was a student at Jordonhill at the time. Some of her father's family came to Sydney about 1900. I told you the story of the Digger that turned up at their house in 1916 claiming to be their cousin's son. He wasnt
We met one of them once here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 22:34:14 GMT -1
Yes our mums were both pure Celt fair hair, not blonde, blue eyed. We met at a den of iniquity near the University called the QM. She was a student at Jordonhill at the time. Some of her father's family came to Sydney about 1900. I told you the story of the Digger that turned up at their house in 1916 claiming to be their cousin's son. He wasnt We met one of them once here. Yet again, such a tiny world, with now NO degrees of separation, Oz! I was at Jordanhill School from 5-18, although till I was 12 we lived in a council house in Knightswood. Moved to a bought hoose at the poorer end of Jolly Jorders circa 1968. Teacher-training students at the College used to be placed at the school. Is it POSSIBLE Mrs Oz could have taught me age 13+ I wonder? Re the QM: I was at Glasgow Uni 1974-77. I was social convener at QMU 75-76, Ents Convener 76-77, and graduate board member 77-78. So I practically lived in the dorms there when we'd been working too late on gigs etc to venture home. This string of coinkidinks is actually weirding me out now. But in a good way. p.s. The QM hasn't changed majorly since we were all around and about. Hideous-looking building from the outside but the scene of the happiest of times for me too. pps I still get to visit the music dept in Uni Gardens now and then, next time I pound that particular pavement towards the QM I will think of you both!
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Post by ozneil on Mar 22, 2014 22:49:27 GMT -1
]Yet again, such a tiny world, with now NO degrees of separation, Oz! I was at Jordanhill School from 5-18, although till I was 12 we lived in a council house in Knightswood. Moved to a bought hoose at the poorer end of Jolly Jorders circa 1968. Teacher-training students at the College used to be placed at the school. Is it POSSIBLE Mrs Oz could have taught me age 13+ I wonder? Re the QM: I was at Glasgow Uni 1974-77. I was social convener at QMU 75-76, Ents Convener 76-77, and graduate board member 77-78. So I practically lived in the dorms there when we'd been working too late on gigs etc to venture home. This string of coinkidinks is actually weirding me out now. But in a good way. p.s. The QM hasn't changed majorly since we were all around and about. Hideous-looking building from the outside but the scene of the happiest of times for me too. pps I still get to visit the music dept in Uni Gardens now and then, next time I pound that particular pavement towards the QM I will think of you both! This time the separation is by time. Mrs Oz Left Jordanhill in 1960 and taught at Thornliebank Primary. We loaded our goods and chattels and departed Glasgow on 14th February 1968 on night sleeper to London for a 3 year contract in Oz fares paid both ways. Sometime during that time we lost the return tickets and have been stranded in Oz ever since. Actually it took Mrs Oz about 3 weeks to decide we were staying!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2014 23:14:18 GMT -1
Well given how Scotland/UKE was in the late 60s who could blame you?
Australia is stunning, for so many reasons. Marvellous country.
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