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Post by ozneil on Jun 30, 2014 20:19:36 GMT -1
]Guilty on all 12 counts. Well, he knows what he is and so do the rest of us now. I wouldn't imagine a jail term would achieve anything much. Kinda just wish though, that all these guys like him, Stuart Hall, Paul Gadd, Dave Lee Travis would just admit that they behaved really badly rather than constantly protest their innocence in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. That Jimmy Savile though, in the light of evidence coming out, he was something else entirely. I imagine it was clear most of us at the time he was way out there and very possibly dangerous. Have to say I recoiled every time I saw him on tv: even as a teen in the 70s he creeped the f*ck out of me. I feel so sorry for Rolfe's wife ... poor thing she looks so frail and was/is so loyal.
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Post by notanimby on Jul 1, 2014 5:48:21 GMT -1
Think we mentioned before the scenes of these "celebrities" arriving/leaving court in the bosom of their families in cringeworthy shows of faux loyalty.
Well then its now being made clear the pretentiousness of it all - Harris's daughter has admitted that it was all an act and she couldn't bear him in the slightest - shown by a newsclip of them, getting into a limo outside the court, it drives off around the corner, it stops and the daughter jumps out with a look of disgust on her face that wa plain for all to see
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 20:31:57 GMT -1
]Guilty on all 12 counts. Well, he knows what he is and so do the rest of us now. I wouldn't imagine a jail term would achieve anything much. Kinda just wish though, that all these guys like him, Stuart Hall, Paul Gadd, Dave Lee Travis would just admit that they behaved really badly rather than constantly protest their innocence in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. That Jimmy Savile though, in the light of evidence coming out, he was something else entirely. I imagine it was clear most of us at the time he was way out there and very possibly dangerous. Have to say I recoiled every time I saw him on tv: even as a teen in the 70s he creeped the f*ck out of me. I feel so sorry for Rolfe's wife ... poor thing she looks so frail and was/is so loyal. You never know what goes on behind closed doors, do you. Some women turn a blind eye to misbehaviour by their husbands, but I imagine most women have a radar going on even if they've no evidence... Maybe she and the daughter didn't believe the allegations and played along with the family support thing. He's a wealthy man, after all....
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Post by notanimby on Jul 1, 2014 20:41:41 GMT -1
I feel so sorry for Rolfe's wife ... poor thing she looks so frail and was/is so loyal. You never know what goes on behind closed doors, do you. Some women turn a blind eye to misbehaviour by their husbands, but I imagine most women have a radar going on even if they've no evidence... Maybe she and the daughter didn't believe the allegations and played along with the family support thing. He's a wealthy man, after all.... Not for much longer, the lawyers are preparing claims against since yessterday
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Post by ozneil on Jul 2, 2014 1:32:19 GMT -1
Head line in Daily Telegraph here
TRUST BRITISH PRISONS
SURE CAN!
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Post by notanimby on Jul 2, 2014 5:05:35 GMT -1
Head line in Daily Telegraph here TRUST BRITISH PRISONS
SURE CAN!Isn't Australia a "british prison" - for real bad asses?
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Post by ozneil on Jul 2, 2014 5:31:16 GMT -1
Used to be but the Brits stopped it.
They found too many people were applying for assisted passages by stealing a loaf of bread or similar to qualify and as the Brit Government could no longer afford the fares they stopped it.
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Post by bormes on Jul 2, 2014 7:06:29 GMT -1
Well, I thought Saville was an odd weird fellow but I never for a moment thought he was a perv. In fact I watched him doing a programme for kids Jimll fix it, with my daughter and thought even then he was a kind fellow with his running for charities etc., so until about ten years ago a friend of mine who came up to Glasgow from London and was involved in the world of music and luvvies told me emphatically that there was all sorts of talk about him being a real perv and he slagged Rantzen too. I confess I was unsure how much to believe. Now I think it is IMPOSSIBLE for a number of people NOT to have been involved in the cover up of his deeds, there are so many over such a long time he could NEVER have gone on so long without serious high up help.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 19:53:26 GMT -1
Well, I thought Saville was an odd weird fellow but I never for a moment thought he was a perv. In fact I watched him doing a programme for kids Jimll fix it, with my daughter and thought even then he was a kind fellow with his running for charities etc., so until about ten years ago a friend of mine who came up to Glasgow from London and was involved in the world of music and luvvies told me emphatically that there was all sorts of talk about him being a real perv and he slagged Rantzen too. I confess I was unsure how much to believe. Now I think it is IMPOSSIBLE for a number of people NOT to have been involved in the cover up of his deeds, there are so many over such a long time he could NEVER have gone on so long without serious high up help. Indeed, Bormes, there's been a call for an investigation today into how Savile and Harris were so accepted into ahem...high society...when alarm bells were ringing as far back as the 70s. It would appear also that one of Harris's victims wrote to the Queen to warn her what a perv he was when he was commissioned to paint her portrait... We look at it now and wonder why the hell we didn't realise what was going on. But in hindsight, we didn't know then what we do now about the propensity for nonces to embed themselves in 'good works' with 'young people'. Savile's crimes,though, went above and beyond even that. A truly awful sense of self-importance and celebrity, that some might say has psychopathic traits. There's a few of them about...and often in very high positions indeed.
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Post by notanimby on Jul 2, 2014 20:16:21 GMT -1
In the media today, one will notice that former Home Secretary Leon Brittan was handed a dossier of complaints way back in the early eighties.
The reason he is mentioned now with so much emphasis, is that he is alleged to be a member of the paedophiles circle that Cyril smith took part in, mainly at a posh B&B in London. It's long been rumoured that he was a main participant and named by various people involved.
Now the dossier has mysteriously disappeared and Britten looks like a man shitting himself
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 21:18:33 GMT -1
Just playing catchup on today's news and yes, I see that now, Nota. Does it surprise me? No. Not really. It's never about *sex* per se. It's all about *power* and the mutual protection of *wealth*. It's about *elitism* and who's allowed into the *inner circle*. And the press collude. It stinks to high heaven and I for one want away from it. We are so much better than that.
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Post by bormes on Jul 2, 2014 21:44:01 GMT -1
The batchelor boy was on the B&B List Nota!! I spoke to a very senior Policeman in Ireland many years ago he had been sent to look into the "shoot on sight policy" He revealed to the Government what he found out by accident how NI kids in "Homes" were being used by scum for sexual thrills. It cost this man his job and they tried to blacken his name. He wrote a book. I wonder if he will be interviewed? HE SHOULD BE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 22:27:34 GMT -1
Pretty well-recognised that psychopaths prey on the most vulnerable...
They know fine well they're more likely to be believed than a young, bereft child whose been confined to an institution, through no fault of their own.
Priests have been getting away with it for centuries, after all.
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Post by notanimby on Jul 3, 2014 5:01:04 GMT -1
The batchelor boy was on the B&B List Nota!! I spoke to a very senior Policeman in Ireland many years ago he had been sent to look into the "shoot on sight policy" He revealed to the Government what he found out by accident how NI kids in "Homes" were being used by scum for sexual thrills. It cost this man his job and they tried to blacken his name. He wrote a book. I wonder if he will be interviewed? HE SHOULD BE. Yep no surprises there, I know who you mean regarding the polisman - same thing happened a few years ago with the Jersey senior polisman who was investigating the childrens home there too, saville & batchelor boy were visitors there too - the polisman ended with his name blackened and forced out - he was an ex-RUC guy lives in Ayrshire I believe now
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Post by bormes on Jul 3, 2014 6:55:31 GMT -1
Must compare notes next time we meet Nota. I knew the attorney general in Hong Kong, he was a friend of this policeman whom I knew from Ireland. The irony was the UK Government sent him to NI to cover up the shoot to kill policy, but forgot to send someone that would do as they wanted, instead of someone who did the job they were asked to do!! The absurdity of even asking if there was a STK policy, what else are you trained to do? Not like the movies we dont train to shoot the gun out of someones hand!!
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