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Post by westender on Jun 12, 2012 16:12:08 GMT -1
I have literally just discovered this today, and am surprised I hadn't heard about it before... fire up yer webcam, and talk to random strangers on tinternet.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18364850What do we think folks? Do we like this idea? "...What started as an experiment for the LA-based blogger in July 2010 "to reconnect with humanity one stranger at a time" has since transformed his life. "I met a lot of people, made new friends, even got girlfriends. I started becoming a different person, not so cynical and judgemental. I liked who I was becoming."" On the face of it, what you're inevitably gonna get is naked pervy guys and crazies...but from what I can gather, there are certain safeguards in place on this system: one strike and you're out, and the chattees can award points to one another based on how interesting they find each other. So this shoudl help to weed out the crazies. I think it sounds like a potentially very interesting concept. I like conversation, and I usually like conversation with strangers. And strangers all over the world...? Could be good. I'd like a blether with someone in India who works for BT, for a start  (on the other hand, I hate conversation with strangers. There are WAY too many completely stupid people around) Hmmmmm. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 19:29:47 GMT -1
I'd not heard of it either, Westie. Sounds quite interesting though. And at least you can see who you're talking to which has to be an advantage, you'd imagine that alone will cut down on the crazies. I confiscated the wean's webcam when she was 15, as it happens. You'll understand why I guess.... Someimes I think I must be the only person left on the planet that doesn't 'do' Facebook (apart from our company page). It's got to the point where I feel I'm missing out on people's news because they post it there.... ;D Also is it not quite awkward when someone you know vaguely wants to 'friend' you and you don't want to add them? I'm not sure of the social etiquette in such a situation....  Let's know if you give Airtime a go? ;D |
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Post by notanimby on Jun 13, 2012 17:18:30 GMT -1
I'd not heard of it either, Westie. Sounds quite interesting though. And at least you can see who you're talking to which has to be an advantage, you'd imagine that alone will cut down on the crazies. I confiscated the wean's webcam when she was 15, as it happens. You'll understand why I guess.... Someimes I think I must be the only person left on the planet that doesn't 'do' Facebook (apart from our company page). It's got to the point where I feel I'm missing out on people's news because they post it there.... ;D Also is it not quite awkward when someone you know vaguely wants to 'friend' you and you don't want to add them? I'm not sure of the social etiquette in such a situation.... Let's know if you give Airtime a go? ;D Am not on faceplook either. Mrs N is though |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2012 20:15:58 GMT -1
Is there any truth in the reports I was reading in the (albeit redtop) UKE press today that Google StreetView has harvested private info from unprotected wifi in homes and businesses?
Has to be untrue, shirley? I mean, Street View's about filming streets which I'd assume would only require cameras, not downloading private info for sale?
What's going ON? Mr R has said to me for eons not to use Google but to use Bing or suchlike. Our home wifi's password-protected so I'm not particularly worried personally but this does seem all wrong, if it's even true.
Anyone here know the facts as opposed to the speculation?
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Post by notanimby on Jun 15, 2012 2:48:22 GMT -1
Is there any truth in the reports I was reading in the (albeit redtop) UKE press today that Google StreetView has harvested private info from unprotected wifi in homes and businesses? Has to be untrue, shirley? I mean, Street View's about filming streets which I'd assume would only require cameras, not downloading private info for sale? What's going ON? Mr R has said to me for eons not to use Google but to use Bing or suchlike. Our home wifi's password-protected so I'm not particularly worried personally but this does seem all wrong, if it's even true. Anyone here know the facts as opposed to the speculation? if you leave yer doors wide open, expect someone tae come in a steal yer stuff. if people are stupit enough tae leave their wifi unsecure - well hell slap it intae them - although this disnae mitigate the alleged transgreshun by google. same wae yer mobile phone - they were only hacked because folk never secured their voicemail |
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Post by westender on Jun 19, 2012 11:58:38 GMT -1
if you leave yer doors wide open, expect someone tae come in a steal yer stuff. if people are stupit enough tae leave their wifi unsecure - well hell slap it intae them - although this disnae mitigate the alleged transgreshun by google. same wae yer mobile phone - they were only hacked because folk never secured their voicemail But that's one of my main points with regard to they tyranny of the technology we're all now swamped with. Who the feck knows that their wifi is insecure, or that they are responsible for its security? How many even understand the concept?? Whose fault is that? It can't be blamed on the consumer. The consumer at large understands fuck all about what it is they're drowning in, because they've never been made to and never needed to. The technology is being made simple and simpler, and the need to comprehend what you're dealing with is becoming more and more remote. My ancient (and by today's standards stone age) mobile phone has more sophisticated technology in it than NASA had its disposal when it sent men to the moon and back...  Scares and depresses the hell out of me. Knuckledragging mouthbreathers, casually having access to unimaginably sophisticated technology as part of their everyday existence... This will not end well. |
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Post by notanimby on Jun 19, 2012 15:45:46 GMT -1
if you leave yer doors wide open, expect someone tae come in a steal yer stuff. if people are stupit enough tae leave their wifi unsecure - well hell slap it intae them - although this disnae mitigate the alleged transgreshun by google. same wae yer mobile phone - they were only hacked because folk never secured their voicemail But that's one of my main points with regard to they tyranny of the technology we're all now swamped with. Who the feck knows that their wifi is insecure, or that they are responsible for its security? How many even understand the concept?? Whose fault is that? It can't be blamed on the consumer. The consumer at large understands fuck all about what it is they're drowning in, because they've never been made to and never needed to. The technology is being made simple and simpler, and the need to comprehend what you're dealing with is becoming more and more remote. My ancient (and by today's standards stone age) mobile phone has more sophisticated technology in it than NASA had its disposal when it sent men to the moon and back... Scares and depresses the hell out of me. Knuckledragging mouthbreathers, casually having access to unimaginably sophisticated technology as part of their everyday existence... This will not end well. its not a difficult concept - they all come with instructions - dp they have to get explained to them that when they get a hoose you have to lock yer doors RTFM - Read The Fucking Manual the technology may be "sophisticated" at the component level but its no' really at the user level A phone is still a phone - you still have to dial numbers etc if you put somebody in front of a computer from the early seventies ( an IBM 360 fur example) it didnae huvva screen, just a teleprinter and dials to twiddle. they would be fucked, even todays computer geeks would be fucked today computers are far merr sophisticated but they are a damned site easier to use |
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Post by westender on Jun 19, 2012 19:19:45 GMT -1
As usual you've missed my point. its not a difficult concept - they all come with instructions - dp they have to get explained to them that when they get a hoose you have to lock yer doors No. Of course they don't. But we don't treat a house the same way we treat our other stuff. One's house is a basic of our existence, and defence and security of the homestead is something that all of humanity understands at a very instinctive, basic level. One's house is not viewed the same way as one views one's disposable, instantly obsolete, consumer good; bells and whistly unnecessary stuff, specifically designed to fish in idiots who think it's fine and dandy that they are forced to believe they must replace the entire feckin things every couple of years for absolutely no good reason. Nobody tells them or wants them to know what it is they've actually got. Again: You can't blame the consumer for not reading manuals. Most wouldn't know there is a manual. In recent times, it's clear that manufacturers don't want to produce manuals. They don't want folk to want manuals. Nobody tells the consumer they should read the manual, if there is a manual. The Leveson enquiry came about entirely because loads and loads of (not necessarily stupid) people, who we'd have thought ought to have known better, had absolutely no idea how their voicemail worked, how easy it was for strangers to access it, or that they themselves were responsible for its security. And the manufacturers certainly don't want anyone demanding or reading a manual!: e.g. www.apple.com/uk/iphone/"Order your iPhone online and get it delivered to your door. It ships free and ready to use." "Buy iPhone at the Apple Retail Store and we’ll activate it and set it up just the way you want." "iCloud stores your music, photos, documents and more. And wirelessly pushes them to your devices. It’s automatic, effortless and seamless. And it just works. iCloud is free with iOS 5." "Two powerful cores and faster graphics make all the difference when you're browsing the web, going from app to app to app, gaming and doing just about anything" "Ask Siri to make calls, send texts, set reminders and more. Just talk the way you talk. Siri understands what you say  and knows what you mean" They don't want to give you a manual, and they don't want you to want one. They want you placid, passive and massively stupefied. I wasn't saying otherwise. Yebbut seems to me that the manufacturers don't want us thinking of or using our phones simply as phones these days. I mean, look at that iphone nonsense. What the hell is it? A camera, a gaming machine, a feckin teasmade? It wants to suck you in and render you helpless; barely sentient without it. What's that got to do with a discussion of the wonders (or otherwise) of modern technology? Indeed, and as I said, I find it scary and depressing. The technology is being made simple and simpler, and the need to comprehend what you're dealing with is becoming more and more remote. People's desire to understand what they're using, how it works, is dying away. Once upon a time we a were a curious species. (Specially in Scotland). We wondered, pondered, invented, discovered, manufactured, engineered, built. Useful, necessary things. Now we're just greedy; and getting fatter, lazier and stupider - and ever more willing to spend money we don't have buying completely pointless gizmos & making some deeply unpleasant/odd men richer than any human has ever been. The technology is killing us. 'Whom the gods seek to destroy, they first make mad.' We're well on the way. |
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Post by notanimby on Jun 20, 2012 18:34:34 GMT -1
It's not the manufacturers fault people are thick and stupit.
My wireless router/modem, is complete cheap shite, it came with a fold out glossy A3 sized guide on how to set it up, complete with pikchurs and words of one syllable.
My ISP, who supplied said gizmo also has on its website photies on how to do everything beyond the basics. The basics include activating security.
If people are stupid or too apathetic to follow the simplest of instructions or indeed give a fuck, then fuck them, ah hope thur systems get done over and they get totally hacked.
Nae sympathy fur fuckwitted eejits here- its not rocket science
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2012 0:30:49 GMT -1
Come on, Nota! You surely have to agree that the masses are being sold instant technology when the makers know fine well they're going to sell on the data and exploit the user while making manuals beyond the reach of most. Remember the average IQ is 100. That very fact plus the promise of instant gratification without reading through the confusingly worded manuals is like shooting fish in a barrel... It is NOT OK that Google harvest private data through their Street Cams. It was presented as being about mapping the streets and NOT about the power to invade everyone's privacy more than showing pics of their house. If Mr and Ms R hadn't been so up on such things I wouldn't have had a CLUE how to protect myself from data theft. Oddly the wean's been re-reading 1984 these past couple of weeks and it's frankly scary how true some of the notions within it have become. More so now than when I first read it 20 odd years back. As for the iphone I don't have one, and I never intend to. It frankly terrifies me that even on ma hols, people everywhere in restaurants and bars and even on the effing BEACH are staring into wee screens, responding to every bleep and beep like it's essential that someone's got an email or updated their FB profile. I am giving it civil disobedience by DELIBERATELY NOT AVOIDING people transfixed to their phones whilst walking on a collision course with me. This has its dangers of course, only today some diddy in Barca trod on my sandalled foot. But I made him apologise |
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Post by notanimby on Jun 25, 2012 19:02:08 GMT -1
Come on, Nota! You surely have to agree that the masses are being sold instant technology when the makers know fine well they're going to sell on the data and exploit the user while making manuals beyond the reach of most. Remember the average IQ is 100. That very fact plus the promise of instant gratification without reading through the confusingly worded manuals is like shooting fish in a barrel... It is NOT OK that Google harvest private data through their Street Cams. It was presented as being about mapping the streets and NOT about the power to invade everyone's privacy more than showing pics of their house. If Mr and Ms R hadn't been so up on such things I wouldn't have had a CLUE how to protect myself from data theft. Oddly the wean's been re-reading 1984 these past couple of weeks and it's frankly scary how true some of the notions within it have become. More so now than when I first read it 20 odd years back. As for the iphone I don't have one, and I never intend to. It frankly terrifies me that even on ma hols, people everywhere in restaurants and bars and even on the effing BEACH are staring into wee screens, responding to every bleep and beep like it's essential that someone's got an email or updated their FB profile. I am giving it civil disobedience by DELIBERATELY NOT AVOIDING people transfixed to their phones whilst walking on a collision course with me. This has its dangers of course, only today some diddy in Barca trod on my sandalled foot. But I made him apologise I very rarely buy technology which is confusing or difficult to get to grips with - most of teh stuff I buy comes with an easy manual - pictures, wee words etc to get you up and running and teh option to either read a more in=depth wan if you wish My ISP provides photies to show you how to do stuff with the wireless router plus simple diagrams in a big foldy-out sheet that comes with it Then again ma ISP is Plusnet who provide an excellent service all-round - the joys of getting what you pay for iPhone - I have one but I rarely use any of the3/4 apps I have on it as the user experience is shite Before buying I tried out a couple of phones to see how they worked for me, ease of use, features I need etc and teh iPhone was the best, especially for usability. Apps I have but dont use include BBC News,Linked In, facebook(dont even have a facebook account) solitaire which I use if bored and atetris type game. Even deleted the web browser as trying to view web pages was utter shite. I've been using Smartphones since 2002 in various guises, I would still buy an iPhone - I take photies in very low light in teh back of server racks etc and its camera is magnificent at that, best I've came across |
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Post by peony on Jul 4, 2012 19:02:11 GMT -1
I have always felt that google was a sinister, dangerous outfit. EXPECIALLY that street view stuff.
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Post by bormes on May 16, 2013 20:03:52 GMT -1
Agree with you there P.
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