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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 21:04:16 GMT -1
Amidst mutterings of Police-State-type intervention after Live Nation pulled the plug on this pair at Hyde Park last weekend for going over the pre-set noise curfew, not one newspaper to date has actually given the facts. Which are that council licensing officials insist on such curfews. I personally think an 11pm curfew on a Saturday night is unreasonable. But we are where we are; if the curfew's broken, the concert promoter (Live Nation in this case) can be required to pay a hefty fine. We are talking upwards of £10,000 per minute over the curfew. There are other ramifications too. For example if a BBC TV crew go over their contracted hours by even a minute into overtime, BBC bosses are required to pay an hour's overtime. If the gig finishes later than planned, ALL the workers on site have to work beyond their hours; the stewards, the stage crews, the cleanup crews, it affects EVERYONE. And hard pressed facility companies have to shell out the overtime with no redress. Bruce and 'his people' haven't the faintest SCOOBY of an excuse because they're informed in advance what curfew applies. What some artists might consider an act of rock'n'roll defiance is actually pathetic, unthinking, and only fuels their out of control egos. It's just deep disrespect for not only the site workers but also their own fans who've shelled out big style for tickets and are left frustrated and annoyed. PAH! Like three solid hours of Springsteen ain't enough now
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2012 21:08:54 GMT -1
Pee Ess. At T we have huge eff-off CLOCKS mounted on the back of the PA facing towards the stage. Only once in memory of 18 T's did any artist deliberately exceed their stage time. The plug got pulled on them. Charlatans that they wur... They were shite an all.
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Post by westender on Jul 18, 2012 17:44:03 GMT -1
Can't agree.
McCartney and Springsteen are among the most exalted in the pantheon of gods. I don't agree that they should have been switched off. When you're in the zone - which it certainly sounded like they were - you totally lose track of time. This was a weekend night in one of the biggest cities in the world. It's a safe bet that nobody, but nobody, in that particular spot of London had to be up for their work in the morning.
This was an instance yet again of the wishes & demands of a privileged few taking precedence over the enjoyment by the many.
If the facilitators of these events end up out of pocket when things like this run over, then the facilitators need to re-negotiate their rules. I daresay of the people involved in having to switch off that gig, not one of them chose to go into their field of work to find theselves canning spectacular, once in a lifetime gigs such as this. Course they didn't.
It's the rules that are a nonsense. The gig should never have been switched off.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2012 18:08:52 GMT -1
Yes, I already said this curfew IMHO was unreasonable But gig promoters need to adhere to them if they're part of the licensing conditions for the event. Unfortunately those giving out the licenses have more power than the concert promoters now I know for a fact there's a consistent complainer who lives in the vicinity of George Square and complains every single time there's amplified noise, even on Hogmanay. My point is, though, that Springsteen's people KNEW about the curfew, whether that curfew's right or wrong. They accept those contractual conditions and should have ensured he timed the set better, maybe missing out a few of the duff-er songs (where to start?) to make sure the McCartney guest spot was done and dusted by 11pm. I see The Boss has had his say in Dublin last night; yet didn't break the Irish curfew, interestingly www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-18868086Would just also say that as well as the financial drain on third party companies--- as I said before-- when they have to pay overtime, there's also issues with the timing of public transport at most urban gigs. When gigs run late, punters have to leave before the end to get home. That's just not fair on the ticket buying fans who every band relies on. Don't start me on the Guns N Roses gig the wean went to recently...
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Post by ozneil on Jul 18, 2012 20:16:18 GMT -1
Placido Domingo was out here several years ago.
At the end of his concert the audience just wouldnt stop applauding. He said if the entertainment centre people let him he would sing till his voice gave out.
They did and he did. I think about 3/4 hour from memory but that was inside in a commercial area so no neighbours to disturb
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