Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 18:57:22 GMT -1
Howsabout we 'park' how some Muslims treat their womenfolks just for a minute, and consider how we're doing here in Scotland.
It'd seem everyday sexism's alive and well in the West of Scotland, courtesy the total buffoon that is Tam Cowan. Who gave himself away, not for the first time, in an article published by the Daily Retard on Friday. Here's a few quotes:
"Fir Park should have been torched on Thursday in order to cleanse the stadium after it played host to women’s football"
FOR FUCKS SAKE!
"Why do they still persevere with this turgid spectacle? And why was it allowed anywhere near Motherwell’s hallowed turf? Admittedly, I’ve not seen a lot of women’s football - just a few little snatches"
FOR FUCKS SAKE!
"Just the other week, I bumped into a couple of women footballers (I’ve still got the bruises to prove it) and they were honestly two of the nicest blokes I’ve ever met."
BEJASUS!
It'd appear Tam's only about denigrating women, he has past history. But that the Retard took the decision to publish his rant says more about them than it does about him.
BBC Scotland suspended him yesterday from his lucrative spot on the radio show Off The Ball, a Saturday afternoon sports broadcast. The Retard, though, have not committed thus far to do likewise.
It'd seem Cowan believes that women should only be decorative objects, worthy only of ridicule if they VERY DARE to take part in sport.
He believes he's couthy, down with the lads, and just representing the views of the average Scottish male. I imagine he's been brought up short on his misguided views, given the general comments by so many men and boys this weekend.
Career suicide. He won't be missed.
|
|
|
Post by notanimby on Sept 29, 2013 19:21:26 GMT -1
I've read about this a few times now and can't make up my mind about it. I'm veering towards cowan's on the wind up......... He does it every week, although usually mainly aimed at the old firm and their supporters P.S I've a personal stake in this as god-daughter plays for the wummins Scotland team
|
|
|
Post by bormes on Sept 29, 2013 20:08:11 GMT -1
Much. As Rolo is right about that twit, I do think that free speech is gone and unfortunately as Rolo rightly points out he (Cowan) is giving it, patter with the boys so to speak. Well in a Pub after a wee drink or three there is quite a bit of winding up done about all sorts of subjects that in the cold light of day or PCNess!! would be considered pretty raw and down right offensive. The problem is I am certain he is on the wind up, he does as nota says wind up the Old Firm supporters and sometimes can be funny as you know how serious some people are about their team!! However my fear despite also thinking Cowan is a twit, is we come to a stage where we have to be so careful when we speak NO one is offended!! We do not have some sort of right not to be offended and in fairness if people laugh at some pretty raw Comedians, on TV and there are some crackers even Connolly was raw even calling people names that nowadays would be considered racist!! The answer really is if people do not like someone, then don't buy the Newspaper? I feel for rolo's anger and understand it but I think ignore this twit, after all how the Muslims treat women IS a much more important consideration!!!! Lol. (Running for cover!!!!)
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2013 22:22:31 GMT -1
Is he on the windup----- or just showing his true colours? "Fir Park should have been torched on Thursday in order to cleanse the stadium after it played host to women’s football"
Black humour I get. I'm hardly prudish, FFS. But that kind of statement is pretty alarming for even the most reasonable person.
There's some very serious innuendo going on there, reminiscent of those faiths that find women 'unclean'.
The guy clearly has issues and seeks to draw in the laddish male population accordingly, as if his views are the norm.
A grave misjudgement as it turns out.
He's a rank amateur that has got away with his West of Scotland unreconstituted male schtick for too long. And has taken the right of free speech too far.
This is not just about women's football in Scotland. It's about an ancient ingrained attitude where men believed they could dominate by ridicule. And if that doesn't work, gie her a good slap.
Despite the assertation of the Daily Retard, Cowan is not a professional funnyman. That would be because almost nobody finds him funny.
He won't be missed.
|
|
|
Post by bormes on Sept 30, 2013 5:35:45 GMT -1
Agreed he will not be missed!!
|
|
|
Post by minime on Sept 30, 2013 7:29:15 GMT -1
Howsabout we 'park' how some Muslims treat their womenfolks just for a minute, and consider how we're doing here in Scotland. It'd seem everyday sexism's alive and well in the West of Scotland, courtesy the total buffoon that is Tam Cowan. Who gave himself away, not for the first time, in an article published by the Daily Retard on Friday. Here's a few quotes: "Fir Park should have been torched on Thursday in order to cleanse the stadium after it played host to women’s football" FOR FUCKS SAKE! "Why do they still persevere with this turgid spectacle? And why was it allowed anywhere near Motherwell’s hallowed turf? Admittedly, I’ve not seen a lot of women’s football - just a few little snatches"
FOR FUCKS SAKE! "Just the other week, I bumped into a couple of women footballers (I’ve still got the bruises to prove it) and they were honestly two of the nicest blokes I’ve ever met."
BEJASUS! It'd appear Tam's only about denigrating women, he has past history. But that the Retard took the decision to publish his rant says more about them than it does about him. BBC Scotland suspended him yesterday from his lucrative spot on the radio show Off The Ball, a Saturday afternoon sports broadcast. The Retard, though, have not committed thus far to do likewise. It'd seem Cowan believes that women should only be decorative objects, worthy only of ridicule if they VERY DARE to take part in sport. He believes he's couthy, down with the lads, and just representing the views of the average Scottish male. I imagine he's been brought up short on his misguided views, given the general comments by so many men and boys this weekend. Career suicide. He won't be missed. Totally agree - the guy obviously thinks he's being funny and speaking to a particular audience. But what he's saying is beyond stupid and it's quite likely to be his real views hidden under a thin veil of 'banter'. It's a bit sickening, but not surprising, that there are still men who think like this. For me it's all about context. A few wee guys huddled in a pub or over their barbecue saying these things would be one thing but broadcasting his views from a rag is another. No amount of 'PC gone mad' or 'we can't say what we think any more' should detract from such odious views. He's said what he said and now he can face the consequences whatever they may be - applause and agreement from some, condemnation from others. I guess we'll just have to wait for the 22nd century for such attitudes to actually die out!
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2013 19:12:44 GMT -1
Totally agree - the guy obviously thinks he's being funny and speaking to a particular audience. But what he's saying is beyond stupid and it's quite likely to be his real views hidden under a thin veil of 'banter'. It's a bit sickening, but not surprising, that there are still men who think like this. For me it's all about context. A few wee guys huddled in a pub or over their barbecue saying these things would be one thing but broadcasting his views from a rag is another. No amount of 'PC gone mad' or 'we can't say what we think any more' should detract from such odious views. He's said what he said and now he can face the consequences whatever they may be - applause and agreement from some, condemnation from others. I guess we'll just have to wait for the 22nd century for such attitudes to actually die out! Agree, Mini. The Retard is just as much, if not more, at fault here for printing this crap. Today they printed an 'apology' from TC. Yet, clearly he still doesn't get it. It's not ABOUT his dislike of womens' football, it's the awful language he used, totally derogatory and yes, misogynistic. Yet he claims in the 'apology'--written no doubt so that he can be 'forgiven' and return to his highly lucrative Retard column and BBC radio show---that he can't possibly be misogynist because he has a wife and daughter. FFS!!!!!! It was his references to 'cleansing' a stadium that hosted womens' football and to 'little snatches' that people found totally and unnecessarily derogative. It seems he believes that donating a few quid to womens' football will somehow exonerate him. www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tam-cowan-man-say-row-2322534
|
|
|
Post by minime on Oct 1, 2013 7:29:03 GMT -1
It's typical that he hides behind it being 'tongue in cheek' and his reference to his wife and daughter is sad. Don't misogynists get married then?
But some men will carry on and be boys and some of their women will carry on and indulge them.
But, as I have said, it's all about context and he's clearly misjudged it here. Perhaps he needs to keep such thoughts at home and with his men friends who share his views.
Just wondering - was I wrong to be offended on behalf of the women footballers?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2013 8:29:01 GMT -1
I impose a rule on myself, 'I can think what I like, but I cannot speak or write what I think.' It has served me well and it might serve others, like Mr Cowan too, if they adopted this approach.
|
|
|
Post by bormes on Oct 1, 2013 9:11:18 GMT -1
I can understand you Gil, however these people are "entertainers or journalists etc.," As such they often bring up sensitive subjects, think of Boyle Connolly etc., some people rant and rave about them too. In fact only a few posts ago Rolo who is very very fair minded was passing oil on troubled waters about the young DJ at one of King's places of worship!! The young man had said every bit as raw comments as Cowan and both Franky Boyle and Billy Connelly have said much much worse. I am NOT defending Cowan, I do not like him and I have more reason than any of you, yet I still think no matter how smutty and nasty he is, he is far from the worst in fact Connolly fairly recently had. A rant about Muslims and suicide bombers ( check u tube) and he was quite funny, he was also outrageous for many people but that is what we have with free speech. Kind of reminds me of the Cartoons about Islam how some of the media would not re print the Cartoons, that is the start of denying free speech which has happened in the YUK. Yes Cowan is a twat, he was nasty about women, I did not like it but I would not ban him or others like him, do not buy the Newpaper then you do not need to be outraged on behalf of anyone?
|
|
|
Post by notanimby on Oct 1, 2013 17:33:49 GMT -1
My god-daughter plays for the Scotland team - she or any of her team-mates are not offended In fact they couldnae really give a fuck
|
|
|
Post by bormes on Oct 2, 2013 5:44:31 GMT -1
Not surprised nota. See you soon, the Tower is blown up how will I find you now!!!!
|
|
|
Post by notanimby on Oct 2, 2013 11:37:03 GMT -1
Not surprised nota. See you soon, the Tower is blown up how will I find you now!!!! I'll put a light in the windae. The Scottish boat show is on at kip marina 11-13 October
|
|
|
Post by bormes on Oct 2, 2013 14:05:45 GMT -1
Are you going?
|
|
|
Post by notanimby on Oct 2, 2013 14:29:53 GMT -1
yeah - usually visit sat and/or sunday
|
|