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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2011 19:15:21 GMT -1
Education Maintenance Allowance.
The Tory goverment, sorry Coalition, are about to take this allowance away as part of a crackdown on benefits.
It's given to children aged 16 to 18 as assistance to help them remain at school in households where money's tight. They get £40 a week in term time, mostly used for travel and subsistence expenses.
It's means-tested on parental income so at the wean's school there's a big uptake in 4th-6th year.
Is it not better to give the weans some help to stay on and maybe get a few qualis?
Or better to throw them out to compete in a jobs market that's not in their favour--meaning they sign on and claim benefits of MORE than £40 a week?
It seems like a shortsighted view to me. But then, we're all in this together, aren't we, David Cameron?
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Post by celyn on Jan 23, 2011 8:42:02 GMT -1
I don't *think* this plan to ditch E.M.A. applies in Scotland. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it's safe for ever, I suppose.
It certainly seems wiser to facilitate access to education instead of dumping them on the streets. Don't parents/guardians continue to get Child Benefit though if the wean stays on at school or similar education after the age of 16? Perhaps not - I'm not sure how it works.
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Post by notanimby on Jan 23, 2011 11:26:49 GMT -1
I don't *think* this plan to ditch E.M.A. applies in Scotland. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it's safe for ever, I suppose. It certainly seems wiser to facilitate access to education instead of dumping them on the streets. Don't parents/guardians continue to get Child Benefit though if the wean stays on at school or similar education after the age of 16? Perhaps not - I'm not sure how it works. Uptae 19 Celyn - yes yer right teh EMA in question is ra engerlish based wan. P.S - ah huvnae seen yoo commenting aboot teh sooon tae arrive pandas - yoo must be awfy excited |
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Post by celyn on Jan 23, 2011 11:51:52 GMT -1
Oh yes! The pandas going to Edinburgh? I can haz friends now! ;D Zoos are a bit dodgy, ethically, though, aren't they? But probably a lot better than they used to be.
So I wonder who the pandas' politician victims will be. You know, like Nixon getting a panda, then out of office, Heath getting a panda then out of office .... Beware the curse of the pandas! ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2011 23:40:34 GMT -1
I don't *think* this plan to ditch E.M.A. applies in Scotland. Although that doesn't necessarily mean it's safe for ever, I suppose. It certainly seems wiser to facilitate access to education instead of dumping them on the streets. Don't parents/guardians continue to get Child Benefit though if the wean stays on at school or similar education after the age of 16? Perhaps not - I'm not sure how it works. Hopefully Eck and Co won't take this path. Because that would be silly  Re Child Benefit, yeah Celyn, if your kid's in full time education up til the age of 19 you still get it. It's about £16 a week and not means-tested. It's Tax Credits stop that at age 16. They are means-tested and the amount awarded's on a sliding scale depending on family income up to £60K a year but who pay out for private childcare. At that level the award's about £10 a week, but much much more for families who earn less. I know many a family that lies about their income and marital status so as to claim the max. I also know people who lie about their childcare costs by claiming they're shelling out £300 + a week when the wean's are looked after by their granny. Shit, innit? |
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Post by ozneil on Jan 23, 2011 23:49:25 GMT -1
[ I know many a family that lies about their income and marital status so as to claim the max. I also know people who lie about their childcare costs by claiming they're shelling out £300 + a week when the wean's are looked after by their granny. Shit, innit? Yes they do that here too but if caught, and a lot are, they have to pay back all monies & are hit with horrendous penalties such as interest & fines. Its cut down a lot , but by no means all, welfare fraud |
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Post by celyn on Jan 24, 2011 5:45:51 GMT -1
... I know many a family that lies about their income and marital status so as to claim the max. I also know people who lie about their childcare costs by claiming they're shelling out £300 + a week when the wean's are looked after by their granny. Shit, innit? It's very shit, as I imagine the fact that some, not desperately needing it, tell lies in order to get it, is very useful for those who would end it altogether, never mind the fact that some families will honestly need it. |
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Post by bormes on Jan 24, 2011 9:44:59 GMT -1
Celyn,
You hit the spot bang on.
We give out so much of our taxes to those who definately do not deserve it, and those who SHOULD be helped get a poor deal very often.
Our overseas aid also does not get used properly, there should be a huge drive to help with birth control otherwise this wee planet will be awash with humans with all the hell they bring with them like wars, disease and famine.
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Post by notanimby on Jan 24, 2011 10:46:31 GMT -1
Celyn, You hit the spot bang on. We give out so much of our taxes to those who definately do not deserve it, and those who SHOULD be helped get a poor deal very often. Our overseas aid also does not get used properly, there should be a huge drive to help with birth control otherwise this wee planet will be awash with humans with all the hell they bring with them like wars, disease and famine. A lot of govt provided overseas aid isnae exactly meant tae help the peoples of these countries but given as credits tae spend wae british companies - mainly the likes of british aerospace (weppins branch) |
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Post by funnybunny on Jan 25, 2011 11:07:59 GMT -1
Education Maintenance Allowance. The Tory goverment, sorry Coalition, are about to take this allowance away as part of a crackdown on benefits. It's given to children aged 16 to 18 as assistance to help them remain at school in households where money's tight. They get £40 a week in term time, mostly used for travel and subsistence expenses. It's means-tested on parental income so at the wean's school there's a big uptake in 4th-6th year. Is it not better to give the weans some help to stay on and maybe get a few qualis? Or better to throw them out to compete in a jobs market that's not in their favour--meaning they sign on and claim benefits of MORE than £40 a week? It seems like a shortsighted view to me. But then, we're all in this together, aren't we, David Cameron? Looks like the Engerlish girls will have to do what the Scots girls do to fund their education!! ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 19:36:31 GMT -1
And your point is?...........what precisely?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2011 21:00:07 GMT -1
... I know many a family that lies about their income and marital status so as to claim the max. I also know people who lie about their childcare costs by claiming they're shelling out £300 + a week when the wean's are looked after by their granny. Shit, innit? It's very shit, as I imagine the fact that some, not desperately needing it, tell lies in order to get it, is very useful for those who would end it altogether, never mind the fact that some families will honestly need it. Yeah, with you on that, Celyn. The threshold for Tax Credits (at £60K or so) does seem very high to me, I'd imagine most people not living in the South East earning that much are doing quite well and can probably just manage without it. Then again, if you're a single parent and not claiming the married tax allowance you're taxed higher on your income. It's a minefield, this fairness thing. |
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Post by funnybunny on Feb 2, 2011 13:26:20 GMT -1
And your point is?...........what precisely? Cmon Rolo you know!!  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2011 18:40:56 GMT -1
Don't wink at me, matey.
It was a civil question, are you going to answer it or not?
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Post by funnybunny on Feb 4, 2011 14:05:40 GMT -1
Don't wink at me, matey. It was a civil question, are you going to answer it or not? lol  |
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