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Post by bormes on Oct 18, 2010 11:14:27 GMT -1
I thought a charity today paid it's first client to have "the snip" was a wonderful idea.
I think though if they offered a bit more money they would be more busy.
Might cause some Churches to moan though.
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Post by westender on Oct 18, 2010 11:40:15 GMT -1
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Post by bormes on Oct 18, 2010 13:01:18 GMT -1
Sounds better yes, if there would be no danger of any serious illness passing on to a child, that is my only worry regards the idea.
I suppose sterillisation by postcode is out then? (I was going to suggest that on another place, but the chap I would have meant it for may have had a heart attack and not have been able to go to his' cafeamerican again!!)
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Post by notanimby on Oct 18, 2010 13:31:12 GMT -1
My local fukwit party MSP, one Donkey McNeil, suggestit a cuppla years ago that Methadone etx should bve adulterated wae stuff tae make this happen.
He wiz shot doon in flames then and deservedly so, jist fur bein Donkey McNeil justifies that no end.
Anyways, perhaps if it wiz made clear tae the sorts of folks targetted that any wean they huv in ra fyoochur ur any weans they huv jist noo will be removed from them (along wae ra benefits) toot-sweet if they dinnae get thur act together.
Ah object tae these amerikin "do-gooders" daein this here, not because they ur amerikin, but because they should be cleanin up thur ain backyard before tryin tae sort oot other countries problems.
Reeks of to many relijus borne-againers wae to much money and time on thur hands.
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Post by bormes on Oct 18, 2010 15:39:55 GMT -1
Nota, my doctor thinks Methadone should not be given out at all. Heroin itself is what my Doc., thinks should be given as it is so much safer and allows the addict to function and continue working and being a "normal" member of the world.
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Post by notanimby on Oct 18, 2010 15:40:03 GMT -1
Anither arguement against this is this............and I paraphrase a littel
first they came fur the drug addicts and I didnae care..............
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2010 18:40:48 GMT -1
[ I dunno about irreversible sterilisation though. People sometimes do turn their lives around. Do I remember reading about longterm contraception available for females - an implant that lasts 5 years, or something? Surely that's a better idea. Yeah, that exists and as far as I know it's available free of charge here for the asking. I think the idea of bribing addicts with £200 for irreversible treatment is pretty obscene myself. It's targetting people who're hardly in a fit state to take a conscious decision for the price of a couple of days' fix. Getting people at their weakest, how very charitable  I'm with Nota on this one, there's enough evangelising nutters in this country already without us tolerating imported ones. On a slight tangent, Strathclyde Polis's DEA division announced their latest seizure of drugs money the other day. £200,000 they took off a suspected dealer who couldn't explain where it came from. He didn't turn up at court to defend himself. If he'd had a credible defence they'd have had to give him the money back. These guys are the true scum. Maybe it's them that should get compulsorily sterilised. |
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Post by notanimby on Oct 19, 2010 18:51:02 GMT -1
Nota, my doctor thinks Methadone should not be given out at all. Heroin itself is what my Doc., thinks should be given as it is so much safer and allows the addict to function and continue working and being a "normal" member of the world. I agree, personally ah would legalise all drugs (as per alkyhol n fags) Tehn it cuts ra gangsters oot the food chain and ra quality kin be monitored and stop it bein adulterated wae all sorts |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2010 19:07:36 GMT -1
[quote author=notanimby board=general thread=48 post=499 time=1287517862
I agree, personally ah would legalise all drugs (as per alkyhol n fags) Tehn it cuts ra gangsters oot the food chain and ra quality kin be monitored and stop it bein adulterated wae all sorts[/quote]
Yeah, probably a bit too forward thinking for this country though.
My own GP (possibly the same one as Bormes) and most of my medic friends agree with the principle. Controlled containment has to be better than the crime-ridden nature of the drugs trade and I don't just mean the gangster element, I mean the crime perpetrated by addicts.
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Post by bormes on Oct 20, 2010 6:19:45 GMT -1
Agree with you there Nota and Rolo on the legalising idea.
No one is mentioning the kids though, if an addict has contracted a bad disease surely (HIV etc) then being sterilised is a good thing.
That is a case I would agree with and the NHS could do it.
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Post by sistersludge on Oct 22, 2010 3:54:28 GMT -1
Do you have a sliding scale for people that should be sterilised? Clearly drug addicts are up there on your list, alkies anaw maybe, och and them down syndrome folks, they make the place look unsightly .....its for the children you understand.
Its an interesting debate to listen to the chattering middle classes concern themselves with the productive rights of substance misusers whilst cheering on the slaughter (sorry abortion is a nicer word) of 200,000 children in the UK each year.
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Post by notanimby on Oct 22, 2010 5:21:00 GMT -1
Do you have a sliding scale for people that should be sterilised? Clearly drug addicts are up there on your list, alkies anaw maybe, och and them down syndrome folks, they make the place look unsightly .....its for the children you understand. Its an interesting debate to listen to the chattering middle classes concern themselves with the productive rights of substance misusers whilst cheering on the slaughter (sorry abortion is a nicer word) of 200,000 children in the UK each year. I've never heard anywan "cheering on " abortion in the slightest, abortion is a personal choice for maist folk, it is their right. Jist becoz yoo dinnae agree wae it disnae make it a slaughter, They are not children they are foetuses, they do not become a child until birth Personally ah would rather be cheering on the humiliation off teh deluded relijinists, some of whos leadfers are known tae chuild molesters - perhaps your worries would be better directed there |
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Post by sistersludge on Oct 22, 2010 5:26:12 GMT -1
my worries are about life and death matters, I have no truck with religion.
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Post by funnybunny on Oct 22, 2010 6:50:09 GMT -1
There's those who shouldn't be allowed to breed and them what's can't.  |
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Post by westender on Oct 22, 2010 7:00:03 GMT -1
They are not children they are foetuses, they do not become a child until birth Hmmm, nup, cannae agree with that. There is no clear line that delineates ball of alien cells/unviable foetus/entirely viable infant. |
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