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Post by bormes on Nov 5, 2010 20:50:05 GMT -1
Mr Bush was asked to bomb Syria, as the Israeli's thought they were trying to make weapon grade plutonium.
He (Bush) looked at the idea but thankfully perhaps, he chose not to.
The Israeli's, went ahead and destroyed the plant themselves.
I wonder what will happen when Iran has it's bomb?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2010 22:14:30 GMT -1
I for one am sick to death of being bullied by Israeli foreign policy, they know they have much of the US governing bodies on their side as well as the vast majority of big business in the US---- and don't they just play up to it.
I doubt Bush 'looked at' anything; his caution will have been advised by others, don't give him any credit for nous because he doesn't deserve it. The man is a fricking amoeba, got where he got by the power of his father's reputation and wealthy friends.
What do YOU think will happen when Iran has it's bomb, Bormes? Do you believe in the nuclear deterrent (even when it's washed up on the shores of Skye and dunted by the tug that came to pull it off the rocks?)
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Post by peony on Nov 5, 2010 22:21:43 GMT -1
With the nut case that is now running Iran? I think they will use the nuclear bomb. When they send it, I hope it hits me right on the head. Fuck 'em all.
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Post by ozneil on Nov 5, 2010 22:44:15 GMT -1
With the nut case that is now running Iran? I think they will use the nuclear bomb. When they send it, I hope it hits me right on the head. Fuck 'em all. I dont think even they would dare use it. They must realise the retribution would be swift & devastating A later thought The 70 virgins would probably be 12th century nuns |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2010 23:00:51 GMT -1
With the nut case that is now running Iran? I think they will use the nuclear bomb. When they send it, I hope it hits me right on the head. Fuck 'em all. ;D Why would Iran do that, Peony? It's mutually assured destruction isn't it? Or have we been lied to since we were kids? Shirley not!  It's all just silly posturing when it comes down to it. Sad, inadequate power-tripping f*cks that they are. Real, proper men, the ones we know and love, don't tend to become world leaders. Mores the pity. Only the nutters do--- through a misplaced sense of self -belief and in most cases, utter delusion. Some people are so thick they don't know they're thick. Oh yes. Not that that's a comforting thought or anything  |
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Post by peony on Nov 5, 2010 23:23:34 GMT -1
Iran might do that in a fit of religious duty. Perhaps they would see it as a way to control the world. You said the operative word: nutter.
Iran is under the strong influence of an Ayatollah. They are the ones that call fatwas, etc. Suicide bombings are also a one way ticket. They are all (the extremists) nuttier than fruitcakes, in my opinion.
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Post by ozneil on Nov 5, 2010 23:58:15 GMT -1
Iran might do that in a fit of religious duty. Perhaps they would see it as a way to control the world. You said the operative word: nutter. Iran is under the strong influence of an Ayatollah. They are the ones that call fatwas, etc. Suicide bombings are also a one way ticket. They are all (the extremists) nuttier than fruitcakes, in my opinion. Yes but have you noticed the Ayatollah & his cohorts dont go into danger themselves they send kids. Their hides vare too valuable to risk |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2010 0:50:02 GMT -1
Iran might do that in a fit of religious duty. Perhaps they would see it as a way to control the world. You said the operative word: nutter. Iran is under the strong influence of an Ayatollah. They are the ones that call fatwas, etc. Suicide bombings are also a one way ticket. They are all (the extremists) nuttier than fruitcakes, in my opinion. Yes but have you noticed the Ayatollah & his cohorts dont go into danger themselves they send kids. Their hides vare too valuable to risk Yes, rather like Bliar and Bush in that respect, no? Not to mention the aul demented bitch, she that had the sheer TEMERITY to greet when her amoeba of a son got lost on a CAR RALLY in Africa while other people's children were laying down their lives in conflicts that were none of our business. Don't even start me on nutters. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry  |
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Post by bormes on Nov 6, 2010 6:26:48 GMT -1
Rolo,
You have asked me a real hard question there.
I think if Iran or perhaps another unstable group used a nuclear device, it would most likely not be like a first strike (mutual destruction?)
I am convinced it would be like a one of, or series of, "suitcase" bombs. I respectfully suggest this sort of scenario has been looked carefully at and even certain nonsense have done considerable training in regards to that sort of event.
Regarding, has it worked? Well I must admit so far it has. When only the huge countries had them it was, as seen the mutually destructive option.
Our problem now, as others have correctly said, "nutters" and when they are in charge there is more danger than there ever was before.
It is now impossible to put "The Genie back in the bottle" Therefore when most scientists in any rogue state can make even a dirty bomb, we must rely on information rather than perhaps tanks etc., to liquidate the danger. I do say liquidate in the full understanding of the word, does anyone think al qeda would hesitate to use one against the west if it could?
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Post by notanimby on Nov 6, 2010 9:14:15 GMT -1
Iran only wants tae huv nuclear weppins tae get up the nose ovra yanks and ra zionists - same as Saddam done wae his "weppins of mass decepshun"
Israel is a state controlled by relijus nutters tae, jist like Iran, but apparently we huvtae like them as they ur oor "relijus nutters"
They huv ra bomb tae
HMS Astute is a nuclear powered sub, not nuclear armed by default, its cruise missiles could be adapted tae carry nuclear warheads, if the yank govt so decrees.
Bush couldnae find Syria on a map, even if every ithur country wiz blanked oot
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Post by peony on Nov 6, 2010 11:33:03 GMT -1
Sorry, Nota. I think that Iran is much more sinister than wanting to annoy the US and Israel.
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Post by notanimby on Nov 6, 2010 16:09:12 GMT -1
Sorry, Nota. I think that Iran is much more sinister than wanting to annoy the US and Israel. Cannae agree wae that P, they huvva hell of a lot tae hate ra "west" aboot, most of it completely justified |
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Post by bormes on Nov 6, 2010 17:10:10 GMT -1
Nota, when I left the forces my new wife and I bought an old 11A series Land Rover S/Wheel Base. We fitted a full length roof rack and often slept up there. We went overland to India, Delhi eventually. We loved Turkey, Greece and Iran particularly.
The folks we met all over Iran were so friendly, they wanted to try their English on you, even in chai shops perfect strangers would just speak to you, and honestly we never came across anywhere any kind of anti western behaviour.
The people we met were ordinary working people and the thing they had in common was they wanted to be westernised.
When the Shah was deposed and the Ayatollahs came to power, everything changed, the hatred of the west and the rise of the "nutters" of Islam started, it has steadily gotten worse, there is many, many people there who would love to have a western outlook for their country but are terrified to say anything as the repercussions could cost them their lives. I wish they could go back to that but with the rise of fudamental Islam there is not much chance.
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Post by notanimby on Nov 6, 2010 17:23:55 GMT -1
Nota, when I left the forces my new wife and I bought an old 11A series Land Rover S/Wheel Base. We fitted a full length roof rack and often slept up there. We went overland to India, Delhi eventually. We loved Turkey, Greece and Iran particularly. The folks we met all over Iran were so friendly, they wanted to try their English on you, even in chai shops perfect strangers would just speak to you, and honestly we never came across anywhere any kind of anti western behaviour. The people we met were ordinary working people and the thing they had in common was they wanted to be westernised. When the Shah was deposed and the Ayatollahs came to power, everything changed, the hatred of the west and the rise of the "nutters" of Islam started, it has steadily gotten worse, there is many, many people there who would love to have a western outlook for their country but are terrified to say anything as the repercussions could cost them their lives. I wish they could go back to that but with the rise of fudamental Islam there is not much chance. Of course ra "ordinary" punters in ra street would want tae live as they see fit - who wouldn't Any relijin dictatin or even "advisin" how a country should be run is totally wrong and must be resisted by everywan. Ra Ayatollahs were and are as corrupt as the Shah was, who wiz jist a puppet ovra British and USA govts (oil again) Ah don't think that we in ra west huvra moral high ground on which tae lecture tae Iran on how they should behave - if they see us invadin countries illegally, treatin foreigners wae didrespect and usin torchur, then why shouldn't they expect tae get aff wae it tae - efter all whuts good furra goose........... Ah think ra west jist gets a bit pissed aff wae Iran actin ootside thur control AND makin a big thing of it, they see Iran as a wee kid playin up and not knowin its place, perhaps other tactics are noo required. |
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Post by peony on Nov 6, 2010 18:15:22 GMT -1
I'm not saying that they don't have a lot to hate about the West, Nota. It's how they would express that hate. That is what I find sinister. Oh and that inconvenient thing about treating half of their people like chattel. I also find that sinister.
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