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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2012 23:03:40 GMT -1
Aye, well, if you believe the spreading of disinformation's a good thing, hell mend you, Oz! Remind me, who owns the SMH and the New York Times? And where do that owner's convenient political allegiances lie? Just asking, like... Sure, no problem NEW YORK TIMES is owned by News Ltd (Murdoch) SYDNEY MORNING HERALD is owned by Fairfax Media Both Australian Companies and arch enemies. News Ltd leans to the right & Fairfax media to the left,( if it leaned any further to the left it would be horizontal............. socialist rag!!!) THat help? PS Is it spreading dis-information... did they get date wrong or something? Wouldnt really matter as most readers would not be voting. At least they will now be aware of the Independence movement in Scotland. So it doesn't strike you as odd at all that Murdoch press is syndicated by Fairfax when it suits both's political agenda, Oz? ;D We are seeing the exact same here, that's why I mentioned it The UKE Labour Party is allying itself with the Tory/LibDem coalition against the very notion of Scottish independence. This unholy alliance happens rarely and usually only when there's a common 'enemy'. The date IS wrong so why print it? It seems to me that speculating on a date so publicly, as if it were fact, is just yet another attempt to smear the SNP when they DO announce the date--- as if they've 'changed their mind' or delayed the referendum when in fact we're on target to do precisely what we said we'd do AND in the original declared timeframe. There's mischief afoot. The most hilarious thing is that they think the Scots don't know it
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Post by ozneil on Jan 27, 2012 23:42:59 GMT -1
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Post by notanimby on Jan 29, 2012 16:41:24 GMT -1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 1:49:07 GMT -1
Nah, that piece doesn't do it for me, sorry While the economic facts are accurate, his bitter tone lets him down. That's old-school anti-English nationalism and it's puerile and embarrassing. Frankly he's not doing us---or himself---any favours
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Post by bormes on Jan 30, 2012 11:27:03 GMT -1
I have to say there is a lot of truth in the article although it is a wee bit bitter, though not nearly as bitter and outright lying as most of the BBC pundits and talking heads on it's shows.
Scotland has a strong healthy sense of identity, recognised worldwide, instantly. England is resentful of that fact, because the main question in 2012 has to be, "What is England?" Multi culturalism has done England no favours over the last number of decades.
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Post by bormes on Jan 30, 2012 12:47:27 GMT -1
Yesterday I passed thro' Birmingham en-route to Poole before crossing to France ( I had to collect something) It was like going into Delhi in the monsoon period, the rain the inhabitants, very picturesque. In Poole it reminds me of what England used to be like in my youth, only 50 years ago. I merely mention this as it fits in with my previous post about identity.
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Post by notanimby on Jan 30, 2012 16:17:38 GMT -1
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 18:41:37 GMT -1
Scotland has a strong healthy sense of identity, recognised worldwide, instantly. England is resentful of that fact, because the main question in 2012 has to be, "What is England?" Good point, Bormes. You do get the impression that many of our English neighbours are having an identity crisis. There's a section of the population that seem to hate everyone that isn't them; Scotland, Ireland, Afghanistan, Iraq, Argentina, the EU, Asia, India, you name it. Centuries of English colonialism and an over-inflated sense of their own superpower status is proving difficult to overcome, it'd seem. Maybe it'd be more constructive to fix the 'wrongs' in their own society before pouring out endless bile against just about everyone else.
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Post by notanimby on Jan 30, 2012 18:54:55 GMT -1
Scotland has a strong healthy sense of identity, recognised worldwide, instantly. England is resentful of that fact, because the main question in 2012 has to be, "What is England?" Good point, Bormes. You do get the impression that many of our English neighbours are having an identity crisis. There's a section of the population that seem to hate everyone that isn't them; Scotland, Ireland, Afghanistan, Iraq, Argentina, the EU, Asia, India, you name it. Centuries of English colonialism and an over-inflated sense of their own superpower status is proving difficult to overcome, it'd seem. Maybe it'd be more constructive to fix the 'wrongs' in their own society before pouring out endless bile against just about everyone else. I think it's more to do with them confusing English with British, to many it was one and the same, whither the Scots, Welsh and Irish could see the difference - Now that a lot of Britishness (thanks to devolution etc is waning) they are at a loss as every one of teh other 3 countries are a lot more distinct In reality its no one's fault but their own - they conflated English and British and never discouraged the world from doing the same
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Post by ozneil on Jan 30, 2012 20:22:17 GMT -1
I regret that here all the people from the UK are classed as one under the heading "Brits".
We do acknowledge the different nations there but only as a division of the "Brits" without any real understanding of your problems.
People like me, with an interest in Scotland, have a better understanding but not with the same depth of feeling obviously.
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Post by bormes on Jan 30, 2012 20:37:43 GMT -1
I truly think with your outlook in life you would easily fall into the character of a "Honorary Scot"!!!!
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Post by ozneil on Jan 30, 2012 20:50:47 GMT -1
I truly think with your outlook in life you would easily fall into the character of a "Honorary Scot"!!!! TY I think my outlook is pure Strine though having lived wiith a Scot(ess) for over 50 years some must have rubbed off
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Post by notanimby on Jan 30, 2012 21:12:20 GMT -1
I truly think with your outlook in life you would easily fall into the character of a "Honorary Scot"!!!! TY I think my outlook is pure Strine though having lived wiith a Scot(ess) for over 50 years some must have rubbed off It's called acclimatising or going native
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Post by ozneil on Jan 30, 2012 23:21:29 GMT -1
TY I think my outlook is pure Strine though having lived wiith a Scot(ess) for over 50 years some must have rubbed off It's called acclimatising or going native Jaysus Do I have to buy a bloody kilt??? ;D
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Post by notanimby on Jan 31, 2012 6:41:53 GMT -1
It's called acclimatising or going native Jaysus Do I have to buy a bloody kilt??? ;D Only if your better half orders you to..............
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