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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 19:56:06 GMT -1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-27649126It's still daylight here in Glasgow at the time this offence was committed (9.45pm). People traverse through the park on their way home, on their way out for the night and walking their dogs. There'll have been plenty in the park last night who will have seen this creep. He and those like him can't seriously believe they can do this and get away with it.
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Post by ozneil on Jun 1, 2014 20:30:28 GMT -1
Any arrests?
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Post by bormes on Jun 2, 2014 6:40:28 GMT -1
Strangely enough it is well known for attacks and as far as I know it has been for a long time. Lots of students visit and cut through from the University so perhaps it is a good hunting ground for the predators. Also on its boundary is the "male drag" Where male to male sex is the pick up area of choice for the rougher element. That perhaps makes it more popular? Not sure must ask my friend, she was senior officer in the "pussy patrol" as it used to be called. Nowadays they would probably be hung drawn and quartered by the PC Brigade for insensitive wording or some such nonsense?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 16:54:51 GMT -1
Is it still as renowned for the 'male drag', I was under the impression that seedier aspect of it had been wiped out years ago. We take our kids down there in the summer nights, wouldn't have done that years ago when the guys cruised.
I remember when I was a child, it was an area prone to attacks on females and muggings on 'anybody' who was daft enough to cut through a dark space at night.
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Post by bormes on Jun 2, 2014 18:02:00 GMT -1
Gil, I am sure it is still a male drag after dark, during the day kids with adults are safe.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 23:22:44 GMT -1
Is it still as renowned for the 'male drag', I was under the impression that seedier aspect of it had been wiped out years ago. We take our kids down there in the summer nights, wouldn't have done that years ago when the guys cruised. I remember when I was a child, it was an area prone to attacks on females and muggings on 'anybody' who was daft enough to cut through a dark space at night. A male person sexually attacked a female person walking in broad daylight on a summer evening. What happens between consenting adults of whatever persuasion is irrelevant to this thread. Would hate to think anyone hereabouts would blame a victim for being attacked because they had the sheer temerity to be outside in the hours of darkness. ?
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Post by ozneil on Jun 3, 2014 0:02:50 GMT -1
Talking about being safe a bit in paper today about a Middle-Eastern guy who held up a lady assistant in a newsagent at knife point. the lady's daughter tackled the guy an forcing him to drop the knife the lady assistant picked it and attacked him with it just as her husband came out the back shop and got tore into him. He ran from shop where a passer by tripped him up. He then jumped into his van and took off. He was picked up 5 minutes later, covered in blood, by the cops who, as the paper said "rendered first aid till the Amboes arrived".
That guy is gonna think twice before he attacks another defenceless lady
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Post by bormes on Jun 3, 2014 6:15:12 GMT -1
Rolo, where could you infer that from any post on this? No attack on anyone bu any sex is ever acceptable, I don't think anyone thinks otherwise??
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 19:26:50 GMT -1
Is it still as renowned for the 'male drag', I was under the impression that seedier aspect of it had been wiped out years ago. We take our kids down there in the summer nights, wouldn't have done that years ago when the guys cruised. I remember when I was a child, it was an area prone to attacks on females and muggings on 'anybody' who was daft enough to cut through a dark space at night. A male person sexually attacked a female person walking in broad daylight on a summer evening. What happens between consenting adults of whatever persuasion is irrelevant to this thread. Would hate to think anyone hereabouts would blame a victim for being attacked because they had the sheer temerity to be outside in the hours of darkness. ? As my mother used to say, 'any sharper and you'd cut yourself'. And no ATTACK on anyone at ANY time of day is acceptable and at no time did I blame the victim - is that bloody clear enough for you or do you need it in triplicate?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 20:30:55 GMT -1
Is it still as renowned for the 'male drag', I was under the impression that seedier aspect of it had been wiped out years ago. We take our kids down there in the summer nights, wouldn't have done that years ago when the guys cruised. I remember when I was a child, it was an area prone to attacks on females and muggings on 'anybody' who was daft enough to cut through a dark space at night. A male person sexually attacked a female person walking in broad daylight on a summer evening. What happens between consenting adults of whatever persuasion is irrelevant to this thread. Would hate to think anyone hereabouts would blame a victim for being attacked because they had the sheer temerity to be outside in the hours of darkness. ? Perhaps I misunderstood the above, Gilly. It did seem to infer to me that those walking in dark places at night were 'daft' and so somehow partly responsible for being attacked. If I've misinterpreted what you said, then I unreservedly apologise to you and anyone else who thinks I spoke out of line. I suppose I am just sick and tired of the prevailing notion that all of us (girls and women in particular) should feel scared, all the time, of being out alone in the hours of darkness. Would you agree that we need to concentrate our efforts on the perpetrators of such crimes and not the victims?
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Post by ozneil on Jun 3, 2014 21:12:28 GMT -1
There are certain places in Sydney I would not walk in late at night and would be daft to do so.
There shouldn't be but its a fact of life and to walk there alone late at night would be plain stupidity and "asking for it"
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 22:29:45 GMT -1
There are certain places in Sydney I would not walk in late at night and would be daft to do so. There shouldn't be but its a fact of life and to walk there alone late at night would be plain stupidity and "asking for it" What places would they be, Oz? Are there no-go areas in Central Sydney? Just talking from a Scottish viewpoint, I'm not at all sure there's ANY correlation between attacks (sexual, mugging or whatever) taking place in any particular area. Those who commit such crimes are opportunist and it can just as easily happen on a busy urban street as a more remote *quiet* area. At any hour of the day or night. Is it *daft* for people to walk, anywhere, alone, now? You seen the reports this week of the two Indian teenage girls who, on venturing out of their homes late at night to the toilet, were gang-raped then hung from a tree? Were they somehow *asking for it*? Seems to me we're losing the point. The issue is, always has been, always will be, with those who commit these crimes. They SO rely on victim blaming to get them off the hook and we all fall for it. Well, some of us do, it'd seem.
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Post by ozneil on Jun 4, 2014 2:26:30 GMT -1
There are certain places in Sydney I would not walk in late at night and would be daft to do so. There shouldn't be but its a fact of life and to walk there alone late at night would be plain stupidity and "asking for it" What places would they be, Oz? Are there no-go areas in Central Sydney? Just talking from a Scottish viewpoint, I'm not at all sure there's ANY correlation between attacks (sexual, mugging or whatever) taking place in any particular area. Those who commit such crimes are opportunist and it can just as easily happen on a busy urban street as a more remote *quiet* area. At any hour of the day or night. Is it *daft* for people to walk, anywhere, alone, now? You seen the reports this week of the two Indian teenage girls who, on venturing out of their homes late at night to the toilet, were gang-raped then hung from a tree? Were they somehow *asking for it*? Seems to me we're losing the point. The issue is, always has been, always will be, with those who commit these crimes. They SO rely on victim blaming to get them off the hook and we all fall for it. Well, some of us do, it'd seem. No they werent but that is not Glasgow or any big European city, where it is not sensible to walk alone in certain parts. In Glasgow you know where not to venture alone. To be stupid enough to do so would be risking and attack or in our local vernacular "Asking for it" . Parts and only parts here are a tad dangerous, Redfern & Waterloo near the city centre. Parts of Bankstown & Blacktown in West. Parts of Fairfield, Campbelltown and Claymore in SW. The trouble being mostly bands drunken hoons or druggies looking for easy cash. Other than that, and they are small areas, its generally safe to walk anywhere. Like any big cities their are sexual predators hanging around anywhere so a bit of common sense is required in quiet areas. There are no "No go Areas" as such though some muslim hard liners tried to set up one outside main mosque..... that was soon abandoned under pressure from the more moderate members. One of the big selling points for cruise ships here is they dock at Circular Quay and the passengers are in the heart of Sydney, probably safer than in their own home cities, and adjacent to most tourist traps like the Opera House and the Rocks. Not to forget the QVB Here, unlike what I have seen in UK, the general populace supports the cops. Apart from very few hot heads people will either leave them to get on with their jobs or pitch in and give them a hand
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Post by bormes on Jun 4, 2014 14:11:44 GMT -1
Probably one of the more dangerous areas now in Glasgow is not the traditional tough areas it is Pollockshields and Pollockshaw as Islamic nutters are very quick to attack males on their own and verbally abuse girls on their own or a small group with short skirts. This is fairly new although young men being assaulted by Islamic nutters is not new and with the demise of "Baldy" doing a life sentence and now shuffling along in his incontinence after being beaten up in Jail it was quitter initially after he and his cohorts were jailed, however it has heated up again I am told. Sad really.
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Post by ozneil on Jun 4, 2014 20:34:13 GMT -1
Probably one of the more dangerous areas now in Glasgow is not the traditional tough areas it is Pollockshields and Pollockshaw as Islamic nutters are very quick to attack males on their own and verbally abuse girls on their own or a small group with short skirts. This is fairly new although young men being assaulted by Islamic nutters is not new and with the demise of "Baldy" doing a life sentence and now shuffling along in his incontinence after being beaten up in Jail it was quitter initially after he and his cohorts were jailed, however it has heated up again I am told. Sad really. That was tried here several years ago and culminated in a series of gang rapes by Muslim youths. The perpetrators got a I think up to 20 year non-parole jail sentences. That calmed things down. Migrants who are found guilty of sexual attacks are deported after jail sentences including a Scot who had been here since 4 but had never become an Australian National. I think he was in 40s or 50s
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