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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 19:57:13 GMT -1
Also, they think god is on their side, but, judging by today's weather, I don't think she is. Many LOLs at the sillys LOLs. Yeah, total washout. And it seems most of Glasgow just didn't really volunteer to hear the Orange Lodge's *educational* message, funny that. But the thing is this and I think it's relevant here: SO many people took account of this *thing* happening in the City Centre and changed their plans. With good reason, given past experience of Orange gatherings. The OO insist on their freedom of speech. On the face of it, OK. But when their *rights* result in fear and trepidation as well as complete disruption of travel etc for ordinary citizens, it has to be time for a rethink. Local businesses lost out too, as people actively avoided the city centre and went to Silverburn and Braehead for their shopping instead. We'd do better by standing together against the common threat-- and we all know what that is, don't we, lovely pals?
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Post by ozneil on Jun 7, 2015 20:29:12 GMT -1
lips sealed!!
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Post by celyn on Jun 11, 2015 0:46:44 GMT -1
They're a tiresome nasty shower, right enough. Mind you, this wee surprise "fest" has at least caused amusement on Twitter. There are some funny suggestions for #OrangeFestBands. Yep, Celyn, that whole thread was hilarious, well worth checking out. Would it be churlish to mention my own effort--- Grand Master Sash.. Good yin! Are you maybe suggesting that some high heid yins in GCC will give permission for things if bribed by some white lines?
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Post by bormes on Jun 11, 2015 20:07:01 GMT -1
The strange thing is fir the last seventy years GCC has/is STILL being run by the Catholic Mafia, I found it strange at first why they allowed this, then realised they were hoping for mayhem. That is the same GCC that wanted to name a place bobby sands place and allowed inla/ira marches theough the city centre. I am of the opinion that frankly these marches of ALL bigotry types should be ignored and no one goes along and they might then hopefully fade away. More of the kind of marches that were on in the West End Festival would be nice, not that I am suggesting the scantilly clad young Ladies were the only reason they were good, it is about the music and friendly atmosphere!!
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Post by ozneil on Jun 11, 2015 20:58:47 GMT -1
Our Street marches are somewhat different. This is one I try not to miss though I suppose the PC mob would/should define it as racist www.youtube.com/watch?v=62g2RFs2OI8Though some of the marcher look remarkably Occidental (Sydney having fun)
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Post by bormes on Jun 12, 2015 14:26:34 GMT -1
OZ, When I was young, many, many years ago, the O.O. Used to march down the road, Dumbarton Road and Byres Road and adults and children lined the streets to watch the men throw the sticks in the air and listen to the bands, I do think the odd time some sash music was played but to young ones of ALL faiths and none it meant NOTHING. We ALL just loved the bands and the atmosphere. I never saw another march for years. The first one I saw was after the ira murdered three wee lads outside a Disco in N.I. They thought the Lassies were taking them outside for a "winch" instead they were beaten forced to kneel and shot in the back of the head. Two brothers and their friend from Temple area of Glasgow, two were 17 and one was 18. At this point not a single Catholic had been shot, in fact the Troops up until this point had been brought in by Gerry Fitt and Whitelaw to SAVE the catholic population from the Proddy population's intimidation. These three murders were really the start of the troubles moving downhill immediately, until then the Troops were being given cups of tea and biscuits and treated with friendship by the Catholic community. The Troops were then NOT treating anyone in a friendly manner. Now the next O.O. March was in Glasgow on leave that year and I admit it was totally different from anything that my memory had. It had changed, it had become an angry defiant challenging group of people using the march to vent hatred and anger and as NOT anything like I had remembered. I have to balance this by also saying there were a number of pro ira marches and marches on behalf of hunger strikers and I think they were every bit as wrong as any other hateful march. I include muslim marches with or without musical bands (lol.) I include ALL hateful bigots, I am just trying to give you MY view OZ of how these marches used to be, I do not know if all our posters on here would agree, some of them like rolo will be too young of course!!
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Post by ozneil on Jun 12, 2015 22:01:24 GMT -1
brilliant post Bormes!
It was the one thing I detested more than anything else in Glasgow,the sectarianism, I could understand the causes but still couldnt condone it.
As usual the poor old crunchie (squaddy) had to sort out the mess made by politicians and in this case "religious" leaders.
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Post by notanimby on Jun 13, 2015 6:14:22 GMT -1
OZ, When I was young, many, many years ago, the O.O. Used to march down the road, Dumbarton Road and Byres Road and adults and children lined the streets to watch the men throw the sticks in the air and listen to the bands, I do think the odd time some sash music was played but to young ones of ALL faiths and none it meant NOTHING. We ALL just loved the bands and the atmosphere. I never saw another march for years. The first one I saw was after the ira murdered three wee lads outside a Disco in N.I. They thought the Lassies were taking them outside for a "winch" instead they were beaten forced to kneel and shot in the back of the head. Two brothers and their friend from Temple area of Glasgow, two were 17 and one was 18. At this point not a single Catholic had been shot, in fact the Troops up until this point had been brought in by Gerry Fitt and Whitelaw to SAVE the catholic population from the Proddy population's intimidation. These three murders were really the start of the troubles moving downhill immediately, until then the Troops were being given cups of tea and biscuits and treated with friendship by the Catholic community. The Troops were then NOT treating anyone in a friendly manner. Now the next O.O. March was in Glasgow on leave that year and I admit it was totally different from anything that my memory had. It had changed, it had become an angry defiant challenging group of people using the march to vent hatred and anger and as NOT anything like I had remembered. I have to balance this by also saying there were a number of pro ira marches and marches on behalf of hunger strikers and I think they were every bit as wrong as any other hateful march. I include muslim marches with or without musical bands (lol.) I include ALL hateful bigots, I am just trying to give you MY view OZ of how these marches used to be, I do not know if all our posters on here would agree, some of them like rolo will be too young of course!! To an extent I agree B, when I was a kid ( up until I was 8/9) we would visit N.Ireland for holidays- caravan in portrush sort of thing - my rellies lived in derry/londonderry. Although never seeing a 12th July parade I do remember seeing a 12th August one @ 1968 ish - they did to a kid seem to be joyous carnival atmosphere type things. My rellies, of the proddy persuasion, sang rebel songs, sang orange songs sang any songs at family parties and stuff, were regular visitors to the republic and thought paisley was a twat, a figure of fun to be laughed at . With hindsight it, it was probably due to the fact that they were well off, middle class type folk who had managed to move on from their original "two up/two down house in derry city centre. Me and Mrs N recently went to derry for a cousins memorial service - first time I'd been since I was eight, on the surface it has moved on but turn a corner and the kerb stones are painted red/white an blue, there's big murials on gable ends of unionist and rebel "heroes" - it reminded me of what I would expect in alabama or other deep south states - on the surface everything looks fine and civilised, scratch the surface and their still jumpin about with white sheets and pillow cases on their heids and burnin crosses and havin the odd lynchin or two. AnywaysI felt extremely uncomfortable in Northern Ireland and doubt very much if we would return any time soon to the Land That Time Forgot My parents ( and obviously me) lived in port glasgow about a mile from an orange lodge, so had to suffer their fekkin shite quality band and their knuckle dragging members "marchin" past virtually every saturday on their way back from whatever "walk" was on that week of the "marching season" Most of the nae-necked scum couldnt have found Ireland on a map, never mind have a clue about what it was all about
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Post by ozneil on Jun 13, 2015 20:29:33 GMT -1
Another excellent post Nota!!!
From this distance we see the facts but do not feel/see the emotions.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 2:15:15 GMT -1
Yep, Celyn, that whole thread was hilarious, well worth checking out. Would it be churlish to mention my own effort--- Grand Master Sash.. Good yin! Are you maybe suggesting that some high heid yins in GCC will give permission for things if bribed by some white lines? Dearie me, no, Celyn. GCC have SOLVED the "DRUG PROBLEM" at a stroke by closing down the Arches, don't you know. Never again will any citizen or visitor take any illicit drug of any shape or form, oh no. Not even in the City Chambers or perhaps in parked cars on the south side because NO GCC councillor ever did a bad thing under the influence of brib....err I mean, the due processes of procurement. oh and for good measure another
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Post by bormes on Jun 18, 2015 18:45:59 GMT -1
Well said wee rolo!!
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