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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 22:38:38 GMT -1
[NB: NEW THREAD, SPLIT OFF FROM "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT SERIAL OFFENDER" THREAD]
GLASGOW ANTI-CAPITALIST PROTEST, MOVED FROM GEORGE SQUARE TO KELVINGROVE PARK.
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By the way, Bormes, the Occupy Glasgow folks moved to Kelvingrove today after discussion with GCC.
They were aware of the Remembrance issues for next week and also that thousands of families had bought tickets for the Ice Rink and Hogmanay events in the Square.
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 22:48:27 GMT -1
I think for example of the people camping in George Square and not wishing to move for the Remembrance Service, the pc mob in Glasgow Chambers not wanting to move them !! Fuck them, send in Water Cannons the night before Remembrance Sunday if they have not got the dignity to move for it. I am ashamed people would not move for that.  Eh, wait just a wee minute. Where the hell did you get that lot from?? You're misinformed altogether on this one, bormes. |
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Post by ozneil on Nov 5, 2011 22:52:57 GMT -1
Im with Bormes on this.
I am/was an infrequent visitor to your shores, I spent most of the 60s in Glasgow & had a ball. Loved the place & sense of history. Didnt like the weather or class distinction, in fact hated both. My accent absolved me from the latter though I did wear from time to time a Glasgow Academicals or an Allen Glen's Old Boys tie & occasionally a Royal Scottish Automobile Club one (dont ask)!!!
From my return home I visited Scotland twice 1978 & 1985, Both time I noticed a change in the attitude of the people. To my eyes they seemed to be losing pride in their country. Apart from Glasgow been cleaned up (a wonderful thing --- such wonderful buildings) everything seemed to be getting more & more run down & neglected & I felt a sense of apathy. (This at last seems to be being reversed with the SNP or is that just wishful thinking?)
In the late '90s I was in London at 3 monthly intervals the last being in early 1998 Between my visits (from 1970- 1998) I think I saw a steady decline in morals & behavior of the populace. Not a pleasant thing to see in a country I used to much admire.
These are only my observations & cannot be taken as indisputable facts
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 22:57:39 GMT -1
and now people refusing to move for the Remembrance Day Parade? Wrong. Wrong. George Square is the most important and most historic municipal space in this city. Given its history, ongoing citizen protests against obscene corporate greed in the world we live in today, and ceremonies of remembrance of war dead have absolutely equal right to be in that space, IMO. |
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Post by ozneil on Nov 5, 2011 23:04:57 GMT -1
George Square is the most important and most historic municipal space in this city. ................ ceremonies of remembrance of war dead have absolutely equal right to be in that space, IMO. To my way have thinking they have more right than anyone else to be there to honour your war dead to whom you owe a debt that can never be repaid and that MUST take precedence over all else!!! |
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 23:06:17 GMT -1
Anyways, all I'd offer on PC is this; YES, we should set and enforce ground rules when it comes to discriminating against people on grounds of race, gender, sexual preference I think much that we have in the way of 'rules' regarding all of the above are a bloody nonsense. We feel how we feel. I for one refuse to have my thoughts, feelings, instincts policed by the modern morons who come up with the modern 'rules'. Human nature is what it is. |
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 23:11:58 GMT -1
To my way have thinking they have more right than anyone else to be there to honour your war dead to whom you owe a debt that can never be repaid and that MUST take precedence over all else!!! On the day, it would take precedence, obviously. There's no reason for the protestors to have to up sticks. George Square is the most appropriate place for them to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 23:15:01 GMT -1
George Square is the most important and most historic municipal space in this city. ................ ceremonies of remembrance of war dead have absolutely equal right to be in that space, IMO. To my way have thinking they have more right than anyone else to be there to honour your war dead to whom you owe a debt that can never be repaid and that MUST take precedence over all else!!! Oh, DO catch up! The Occupy Glasgow people moved on out of respect for all of that. I passed by on Thursday and even although the 'official' decision hadn't been released to the press, they were preparing to move then. Come Mid-November the rigging for the Winter events starts and the whole shebang kicks off early December. The protesters have made a significant gesture by going to the alternative site. That is probably because they're constructive, rather than destructive. |
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Post by ozneil on Nov 5, 2011 23:16:12 GMT -1
To my way have thinking they have more right than anyone else to be there to honour your war dead to whom you owe a debt that can never be repaid and that MUST take precedence over all else!!! On the day, it would take precedence, obviously. There's no reason for the protestors to have to up sticks. George Square is the most appropriate place for them to be. OK now how about on 25th April? At most war memorials throughout UK you will find small groups of Australians & New Zealanders paying homage to their dead on that day. Maybe just one or 2 who the passerby wouldnt notice but they are there |
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Post by ozneil on Nov 5, 2011 23:25:26 GMT -1
Oh, DO catch up! The Occupy Glasgow people moved on out of respect for all of that. I passed by on Thursday and even although the 'official' decision hadn't been released to the press, they were preparing to move then. Come Mid-November the rigging for the Winter events starts and the whole shebang kicks off early December. The protesters have made a significant gesture by going to the alternative site. That is probably because they're constructive, rather than destructive. Hell I didnt even know they were there!!!!! ;D |
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 23:34:30 GMT -1
Allen Glen's Old Boys tie  How did the likes of you come by such at thing??  You're not alone in such observations. |
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 23:37:42 GMT -1
On the day, it would take precedence, obviously. There's no reason for the protestors to have to up sticks. George Square is the most appropriate place for them to be. OK now how about on 25th April? At most war memorials throughout UK you will find small groups of Australians & New Zealanders paying homage to their dead on that day. Maybe just one or 2 who the passerby wouldnt notice but they are there i meant to post "on the day (s)": I'm well aware of the fact that there are significant days throughout the year. Question remains: why should the protestors have to move from the square at all? |
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Post by westender on Nov 5, 2011 23:46:07 GMT -1
Oh, DO catch up! The Occupy Glasgow people moved on out of respect for all of that. I passed by on Thursday and even although the 'official' decision hadn't been released to the press, they were preparing to move then. yeah, and i tell ye, i hope their groundsheets are well intact, because they've decamped to what used to what used to be the old putting green in the park. it's a pure splunge most of the time. and i'll tell ye another thing... thanks to the hugely increased numbers of pedigree bonkers dogs bought by nutters in recent times, who take their dugs to that bit specifically so that the dug is isolated from other dugs because it's unsocilaised and bonkers and they haven't properly trained it and can't control it ... its also a major dug toilet. the more i'm thinking about this, the more i think this move is the wrong thing for the protestors to have done. if protest they must, the only place in glasgow where it's appropriate - important - to do so is George square. & what the bliddy feck has happened tae ma shift key/////  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2011 23:59:14 GMT -1
Ah right, I couldn't make out from the news earlier which part of KG it was. Fuxache, that putting green bit's not a good idea  The bit on the Square where they were camped till today is the bit where the GCC 'Nativity' scene's put. A plastic box with dummy Joseph, dummy Mary and dummy Baby Jesus plus a few stuffed animules is rigged up every year so's to make us all 'remember' what Christ-mas is about. Yeah. Right next to the soon to be built Ice-rink where kids're charged a tenner for ten minutes skate around and the whole shebang's ticket only (kerching) for Hogmanay events. It can't be just me that sees the irony, shirley? |
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Post by westender on Nov 6, 2011 0:04:03 GMT -1
Ah right, I couldn't make out from the news earlier which part of KG it was. Fuxache, that putting green bit's not a good idea The bit on the Square where they were camped till today is the bit where the GCC 'Nativity' scene's put. A plastic box with dummy Joseph, dummy Mary and dummy Baby Jesus plus a few stuffed animules is rigged up every year so's to make us all 'remember' what Christ-mas is about. Yeah. Right next to the soon to be built Ice-rink where kids're charged a tenner for ten minutes skate around and the whole shebang's ticket only (kerching) for Hogmanay events. It can't be just me that sees the irony, shirley? exactly, exactly. ma shift key's suddenly fecked. What have i done?? ...ooh look but, there's a couple of question marks,  they came oot ok1 ...but the exclamation mark didnae |
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they came oot ok1