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Post by bormes on Dec 1, 2012 22:23:55 GMT -1
Oz, I have gone to the Dark side and sold my Landrover, I have had them since I left the forces in 1972 so I have had a few. My Dark side vehicle is a 4x4 with Diff Locks, and raised suspension, it is a VW California, 2lire BiTurbo, chipped to 200bhp and I hate to admit how well it performs off road and I do go off road quite often. Splendid vehicle.
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Post by ozneil on Dec 1, 2012 22:34:31 GMT -1
Remember one night in Bishopbriggs trying to get home from work in a pea souper with roads slick with ice.
I got lost somewhere round Springburn/ Possill???, Lost sight of the kerb no idea which way I was heading. Eventually saw a tenement wall looming up ahead, guessed I had crossed road at an expected tee junction reversed and turned right to find the kerb again, A great guy appeared out the fog and guided me on to the correct path until we found the kerb. (bloody fog lights dont bloody work )
On Woodhill Road, nose to tail traffic stopped or so I thought till I saw a telephone box slowly climbing up the hill. clunk into car in front, clunk car behind into me ... no damage. Still I made it home in 2 hours from Park Circus. Mind you looking out the bedroom window, after scraping the lovely ice feathers off, seeing the Campsies and Dun Goyne covered in snow against a bright blue background was sight to treasure
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Post by notanimby on Dec 1, 2012 22:43:27 GMT -1
Oz, I have gone to the Dark side and sold my Landrover, I have had them since I left the forces in 1972 so I have had a few. My Dark side vehicle is a 4x4 with Diff Locks, and raised suspension, it is a VW California, 2lire BiTurbo, chipped to 200bhp and I hate to admit how well it performs off road and I do go off road quite often. Splendid vehicle. The X5 is going in January , to be replaced by an X3 The lease is up and we only have one dog now, plus he's to old to get in and out the back now, the X5 has a split tailgate, which means its rather hi and awkward for him. The X3 has a one piece tailgate which provides a lower rear sill for him to jump up to. We bought him a ramp to get in and out the boot, but he hates it, mrs nota has to drag him onto it whilst I push his erse up the ramp, the neighbours think its a pure hoot.
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Post by ozneil on Dec 1, 2012 23:14:22 GMT -1
Oz, I have gone to the Dark side and sold my Landrover, I have had them since I left the forces in 1972 so I have had a few. My Dark side vehicle is a 4x4 with Diff Locks, and raised suspension, it is a VW California, 2lire BiTurbo, chipped to 200bhp and I hate to admit how well it performs off road and I do go off road quite often. Splendid vehicle. We dont have many European cars here, too dear, most of our cars are Japanese. I had a Series 2 landrover 88 with a tin roof and side windows was great for exploring. Since then mostly Ford Falcons or before then Chrysler Valiants both about 4 litre straight sixes and automatic. We find the European cars just cant take the local conditions . The little high revving motors dont seem to take long distances at fairly high cruising speeds. Wife is a Subaru Impreza fan. Likes the small car as a shopping basket. We now have a Forester automatic The family Nissan Patrol is a 3 litre intercooled diesel, 5 speed manual hi & lo ratios , raised suspension, snorkel, 90 litre main tank and 45 litre reserve tank. Its also fitted with HF and CB radios as well as mobile phone connections and of course air conditioning.
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Post by notanimby on Dec 1, 2012 23:29:51 GMT -1
Wouldn't buy a land rover, unreliable, poor build quality and shite dealer service.
Been there three times and that was 100 times to often.
The beemers have never put a foot wrong, the X3 will be our eighth in a row ( including three minis) they have never let us down. We've changed tyres and got them serviced.
Excellent reliability, excellent build quality and excellent dealer service
Put landrover totally in the shade
We did have a Mitsubishi 4x4, an outlander, complete shite, it was reliable enough but it was tinny with poor quality materials, well apart from the hifi that is, that was brilliant
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Post by ozneil on Dec 1, 2012 23:48:00 GMT -1
yeah mostly I agree with you. Pity about the Landie quality. They are still the best mud crawlers though. For pure reliability Toyotas are unbeatable. Most 4wd Utes are Hi-luxs. Most 4wds here are what we call "soft roaders" ok for unsealed roads but not much good for rough work. Mostly too little ground rubbish and too high geared
Beemers are just too dear out here though son's girl has had one for years, had it since new and no problems.
Son has a Camry had it for 125,000 km Several sets of tyres and one battery
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Post by notanimby on Dec 2, 2012 7:32:57 GMT -1
yeah mostly I agree with you. Pity about the Landie quality. They are still the best mud crawlers though. For pure reliability Toyotas are unbeatable. Most 4wd Utes are Hi-luxs. Most 4wds here are what we call "soft roaders" ok for unsealed roads but not much good for rough work. Mostly too little ground rubbish and too high geared Beemers are just too dear out here though son's girl has had one for years, had it since new and no problems. Son has a Camry had it for 125,000 km Several sets of tyres and one battery BMW X5 and X3 are built in the USA for the world , same with Z4 all built in same plant in USA
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Post by bormes on Dec 2, 2012 11:33:58 GMT -1
Used LRovers in forces, nothing to beat them in ardous conditions, Mrs.B and I went to India overland in a s entries 2a never missed a beat. The new ones however are not as reliable as the older ones. I have had Turbo gearbox clutches all blow in new ones and all under warranty. If I ever had another one it would be an old one with new chassis and renovated, not the new ones. The VW I have is quite amazing off road. None of the modern BMW, or most Jap machines except the Toyota, off road, that is serious off road, can keep up with the LRover, even the new ones, which as said before are pretty shit.
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Post by notanimby on Dec 2, 2012 12:50:30 GMT -1
Used LRovers in forces, nothing to beat them in ardous conditions, Mrs.B and I went to India overland in a s entries 2a never missed a beat. The new ones however are not as reliable as the older ones. I have had Turbo gearbox clutches all blow in new ones and all under warranty. If I ever had another one it would be an old one with new chassis and renovated, not the new ones. The VW I have is quite amazing off road. None of the modern BMW, or most Jap machines except the Toyota, off road, that is serious off road, can keep up with the LRover, even the new ones, which as said before are pretty shit. And that is the rel shame of it Bormes......... They have been shit for years now, under BL, BAE, BMW, Ford and now TATA ownership - you would think someone would do something about it by now Their dealers are complete wankers too
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Post by bormes on Dec 2, 2012 19:42:16 GMT -1
Yes unfortunately you are correct, they had good guys in research and each time it was sold the new ideas were taken and put into the parent company vehicles. Build quality let them down. The old ones were always easily repairable and with a Perkins engine cheap to run and ran forever.
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Post by ozneil on Dec 2, 2012 20:50:58 GMT -1
our Series 2 not sure of the mark. It was the last one with the headlights beside radiator. The next model was a series 3 . It was like this one except green base cream roof and no roof windows was Australian built, spare mounted on bonnet or behind driver We had synchro between 3rd and top only . It leaked oil its whole life, had independent windscreen wipers. In spite of its shortcomings it took us to some very interesting places both here and in NZ. Party trick was was put her into 1st gear low ratio lock hand throttle. jump out and walk along side it watching front wheels. Remember fording a creek with water over floor and feet up on dash using hand throttle (2nd gear low ratio). Use hi revs to keep water out exhaust, Great vehicles then I had to become serious sedans and wagons My last Falcon, fuel injected 4 litre straight 6 cylinder auto Practical, very reliable, comfortable cruised all day at 90mph boring
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Post by bormes on Dec 3, 2012 7:46:26 GMT -1
Great pics Oz. I guess the LR Is a 11A. Had one the same with the soft top that we went to India in. Met a number of Oz and Yanks en route and in Delhi. Did all my own prep before we left and all our maintainence on journey. One radiator hose replaced and nothing else, not even a puncture!! We had fitted a home built roof rack supported on the windscreen supports and bumpers with rear ladder and we mostly slept up on it. Must send you some photos of it!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 18:15:00 GMT -1
The beemers have never put a foot wrong, the X3 will be our eighth in a row ( including three minis) they have never let us down. We've changed tyres and got them serviced. Excellent reliability, excellent build quality and excellent dealer service ;D ;D ;D Our Black Beauty's just approaching 250,000 miles! J reg 5 series; would've been £28000 new, Mr R bought it on Ebay for £500. It's never broken down, gets serviced once every couple of years, starts first time even in freezing conditions and disnae shake, rattle and roll at high speed either. Pure excellence!
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Post by ozneil on Dec 3, 2012 19:11:24 GMT -1
Son in law's 1994 Ford Falcon ED Station Wagon has done about 300,000 km still going strong . Mind you it is on second gear box and he has lost count of radiators, That model of Falcon was prone to overheating ir cost about $23,000.00 new( £15,000). Starts first time though I must admit they have never tried it on a frosty morning
What year is a J registration?
My Hillman Minx was a "C" rego 1965 I think cost £850.00
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Post by notanimby on Dec 3, 2012 19:39:51 GMT -1
Son in law's 1994 Ford Falcon ED Station Wagon has done about 300,000 km still going strong . Mind you it is on second gear box and he has lost count of radiators, That model of Falcon was prone to overheating ir cost about $23,000.00 new( £15,000). Starts first time though I must admit they have never tried it on a frosty morning What year is a J registration? My Hillman Minx was a "C" rego 1965 I think cost £850.00 My parents first car was a C reg triumph herald estate car, they saved for ages to buy it new in 1965 too After they ran out of letters, they put the year letter at front of reg plate J is 1991/1992. 01/08/1991 - 31/07/1992
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