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Post by ozneil on Dec 19, 2013 19:01:40 GMT -1
Very interesting Im never to old to learn
Yes Nota you are correct.You do not have a written Constitution and anyone can do anything which is not illegal. I love that phrase.
The powers you have stated are now purely symbolic and in practice cannot be implemented without Parliaments approval
There lies the main difference
We have a written constitution in which in addition to most of your symbolic powers and has written into it that the Crown has certain REAL reserve powers mostly dealing with the misbehavior of parliament.
This is to safe guard the people.
Some of these powers have been used. ie the sacking of 2 Parliaments one NSW in 1930s and the Whitlam Government in 1975
Whitlam an avowed republican promptly went screaming to the Queen saying "That nasty man has stolen my ball please make him give it back "
The Queen replied "Piss off hairy legs ya wanted independence now ya got it boy!!!!"
You realise I am paraphrasing what was actually said.
The Queen has no power to act in Australia.
You can see the Reserve Powers easily in Google if you are interested
THe GG 's term of office is usually 5 years though it can be extended. Here in NSW the people just wont let out Governor , Marie Bashir go. I think she is in her 3rd term.
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Post by ozneil on Dec 19, 2013 21:33:15 GMT -1
From News.com.au
How sad and how bloody needlessly cruel was the whole thing. BASTARDS!
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Post by notanimby on Dec 20, 2013 10:28:32 GMT -1
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Post by bormes on Dec 20, 2013 12:52:17 GMT -1
OZ, What do you think of the rather excellent wee bit nota has posted for us?
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Post by ozneil on Dec 20, 2013 19:08:42 GMT -1
Most interesting article and could well be correct or incorrect but it is only hearsay and theory until properly tested.
If all that evidence was available why wasnt it brought up in the trial? The 3 Scottish judges arent fools
One thing concerned me it was stated a barometric fuse was used and on take off started a battery which, as later tested, lasted 38 minutes before triggering the bomb. It was 38 minutes after take off the bomb exploded. Now I have no idea about theses things and it probably is covered in the book and excluded from the review but arent the planes cargo hold pressurised? and wouldnt it take plane a few minutes to reach an altitude high enough to activate the barometric fuse and start the battery running? If the case had been put on at Frankfurt surely the the fuse would have been activated on first leg
But as I say a most interesting article and hope it triggers a Royal Commission into the whole sad affair and either proves or disproves the various propositions, but till that happens they will remain unsubstantiated theories.
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Post by bormes on Dec 20, 2013 19:17:55 GMT -1
Fair comment OZ, however there are some facts and they are enough to make one realise that there is some discrepancies that should have come out but did not because of political pressure and I may add. I do not know the Scottish judges and I always wondered WHY it was three judges instead of a jury. I do not like judges only, a jury to me is a much better system and if one looks at judge only cases then not many get a not guilty verdict. As I said I have spoken to my friend who had the co accused found not guilty and took over his appeal and that has been so far left since he was released on compassionate grounds.
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Post by ozneil on Dec 20, 2013 19:33:21 GMT -1
I dont know about Scotland but here its the accused's choice whether to be tried by jury or solely by a judge. Our juries are 12 anonymous people and in certain cases a majority verdict can be accepted
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Post by ozneil on Dec 20, 2013 19:45:22 GMT -1
I dont know if its significant but that article is 4 years old and nothing has happened.
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Post by notanimby on Dec 20, 2013 19:58:46 GMT -1
I dont know about Scotland but here its the accused's choice whether to be tried by jury or solely by a judge. Our juries are 12 anonymous people and in certain cases a majority verdict can be accepted Juries here are 15, depending on the case a jury isn't a pre-requisite Summary warrants aren't heard before a jury, they are heard before a sheriff siting alone. In this case it was part of he deal that it wasn't a jury trial
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Post by notanimby on Dec 20, 2013 20:02:07 GMT -1
I dont know if its significant but that article is 4 years old and nothing has happened. Megrahi postponed his appeal as art of the compassionate release
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Post by notanimby on Dec 20, 2013 20:03:17 GMT -1
One other thing, despite being called Gareth, she is in fact a wummin
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Post by ozneil on Dec 20, 2013 23:45:28 GMT -1
One other thing, despite being called Gareth, she is in fact a wummin Yeah I knew that she is quite well known PS did you read Inigo Thomas's response to that article?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 0:50:27 GMT -1
From News.com.au How sad and how bloody needlessly cruel was the whole thing. BASTARDS! Can I just say thanks, Oz, for posting that. Such a dignified message of compassion and love from one family to another. The Lockerbie issue's not going away. Sooner or later the real culprits will reap what they sowed. Life has a way of evening out the score.
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Post by ozneil on Dec 21, 2013 2:22:12 GMT -1
on same subject, god knows where I read it,
An American couple's son was on the plane. When told his effects were available for collection they went to New York to pick them up . At the desk they were handed a ticket and told to go to so & so where they were handed a box, no words of sympathy nothing.
A year or so later they went to Lockerbie to try and see where he had been found. They started at the cop shop or town hall I cant remember which. They told reception that they were Mr & mrs X and that their son had been on the Pan Am flight. The receptions got someone more senior to see them. His first words were "you will be < sons Christian name> parents. They were astonished . The guy then got a map & showed them where he had been found and arranged for a car and a driver to take them there.
They said it gave them great comfort to know that people in a small country town in a foreign land cared.
I have no idea where I read this but it stuck in my mind.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2013 3:45:05 GMT -1
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-25465662Extract: Scottish and US investigators stand by the evidence presented at his trial and are pursuing other potential suspects.
In a BBC interview on Monday, the Lord Advocate Frank Mulholland said "the conviction stands".
"We were ready to meet the arguments and challenges that Mr Megrahi and his lawyers were placing before the court," he said.The conviction only stands until it's proved to be wrong. And it will be, sooner or later. Meanwhile, I am thinking about all those who have suffered at the time and since. That is all.
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