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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 20:28:15 GMT -1
Have a wee look at this story and pics and then I'll tell you what might be closer to the truth: www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/health/police-battle-control-drunken-mayhem-3104157Ms Rolo had told me about this incident at the Cathouse before we saw this 'news' report. A boy wearing a bright blue top, on his own, had been in front of her and her friends in the queue. He got talking to them, apparently seemed lucid, not out of it at all. The bouncers stopped him, he argued he was meeting his friends inside and when they continued to refuse him, he tried (cheekily) to dodge past them into the club. Next thing, mayhem, cops everywhere. They dragged him out in to the middle of the road and 'subdued' him. She also mentioned there were people with the police taking photos. Seems to me like a major over-reaction; were the polis being OTT because they had journalists with them that night? I'm not denying some young kids (and some less young..) get anti-social with the drink. But Ms R insists this boy wasn't, he was just trying it on a bit against a seemingly random door policy, having queued, like them, for nearly an hour to get in. I mean, have the police nothing better to DO??? |
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Post by bormes on Feb 2, 2014 22:05:05 GMT -1
I could not agree with you more Rolo, we are walking into a Police State.
I want LESS government not MORE!!
We have too many laws,
We have to many who will NOT accept responsibility for their actions.
We have a media with very, very little integrity.
I wish for a Scotland that will be fairer and free of PETTY beauracracy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 1:00:26 GMT -1
Hell, count me in!  That young boy didn't commit any crime. He just got a bit bold and a wee bit cheeky. This heavy-handed treatment really BOTHERS me, I mean 7 big polis 'restraining' one wee lad? Another 'crime' solved? Another check-box ticked? Really?  |
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Post by ozneil on Feb 3, 2014 1:16:43 GMT -1
Thats the Welfare State for you. No need to take personal responsibility the State will look after you. After all its your right (cant find an icon for sarc  ) Even b4 I left Glasgow was irked by petty little regulations administered by petty little people eg keep off the grass in a park.... WHY?? scared it might wear out?? (Look but not touch.......... gees!!!) |
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Post by notanimby on Feb 3, 2014 6:54:13 GMT -1
Thats the Welfare State for you. No need to take personal responsibility the State will look after you. After all its your right (cant find an icon for sarc ) Even b4 I left Glasgow was irked by petty little regulations administered by petty little people eg keep off the grass in a park.... WHY?? scared it might wear out?? (Look but not touch.......... gees!!!) Thats' nothing to do with the welfare state! Our rules/regulations on the above are much lighter and less stringent than, for example, New York state or much of the USA - for example our alcohol age is 18, in the USA it's 21. The above is more akin to heavy over the topimplmentation of existing rules by the polis, it's no coincidence the current chief cuntstable learned this type of over reaction based policing in the Met - having experienced similar myself down souf. A former procurator fiscal in Greenock refused to have anything to do with the polis charging anyone with being drunk n disorderly as it was petty and stupid and a sheer waste - he was known for getting himself into "tired and emotional" states at times - I witnessed him getting poured in to a taxi ( reluctantly on his part) at an office party whilst belting oot the Sash with some gusto. |
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Post by bormes on Feb 3, 2014 9:12:48 GMT -1
Apart from his musical taste being classical, are you seriously trying to suggest for one moment that such a pillar of society could ever be inebriated? Calm down, surely that is not possible!!
I have to defend OZ, his observation on the petty crap we put up with is quite correct. I totally agree we should take responsibility for OUR actions.
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Post by notanimby on Feb 3, 2014 12:29:05 GMT -1
Apart from his musical taste being classical, are you seriously trying to suggest for one moment that such a pillar of society could ever be inebriated? Calm down, surely that is not possible!! I have to defend OZ, his observation on the petty crap we put up with is quite correct. I totally agree we should take responsibility for OUR actions. Yeah I know but in a way of a defence, I woke up the next morning in bed ( my own I may hasten to add) with all my clothes on, including jaiket and shoes. There must have been something in the drink at that party - well apart from it being free that is. I only went to it to drop my mate off to pick his wife's car up, as she was pished tae, they had to take me back 2 days later to get my car. |
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Post by bormes on Feb 3, 2014 14:57:15 GMT -1
Hahahahaha.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 19:27:57 GMT -1
As a tee-total individual, ah'd personally ban the demon drink from being sold at all. A return to prohibition is my answer....
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Post by ozneil on Feb 3, 2014 19:59:37 GMT -1
Just remembered son telling me about parking policewoman where he used to work. It was 2 hour parking and the lady used to chalk tyres and come back 2 hours later and book. Before she started booking came into Son's workshop and said I'm going to have a cup of coffee then book all these cars....Mad rush as staff rushed out to swap cars round to hide chalk marks. Only happened once or twice a week.
It was only in son's place apparently the boss had felt sorry for her one really cold Sydney day and had given her a cup of coffee in the workshop to warm her up.
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Post by peony on Feb 4, 2014 14:47:20 GMT -1
We have the same sort of BS over here too. Add to that madness, there is a break down of personal accountability and a million people with I phones who would rather film something than help another. (Of course, they often have ear phones on so they don't even realize something is going on right beside the.) It's complete lunacy.
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Post by ozneil on Feb 4, 2014 18:46:52 GMT -1
We have the same sort of BS over here too. Add to that madness, there is a break down of personal accountability and a million people with I phones who would rather film something than help another. (Of course, they often have ear phones on so they don't even realize something is going on right beside the.) It's complete lunacy. Texting while walking can be dangerous Luved this ,... not only US but China too www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPW8xmI4w6U |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2014 19:02:18 GMT -1
Thats the Welfare State for you. No need to take personal responsibility the State will look after you. After all its your right (cant find an icon for sarc ) Even b4 I left Glasgow was irked by petty little regulations administered by petty little people eg keep off the grass in a park.... WHY?? scared it might wear out?? (Look but not touch.......... gees!!!) Thats' nothing to do with the welfare state! Our rules/regulations on the above are much lighter and less stringent than, for example, New York state or much of the USA - for example our alcohol age is 18, in the USA it's 21. The above is more akin to heavy over the topimplmentation of existing rules by the polis, it's no coincidence the current chief cuntstable learned this type of over reaction based policing in the Met - having experienced similar myself down souf. A former procurator fiscal in Greenock refused to have anything to do with the polis charging anyone with being drunk n disorderly as it was petty and stupid and a sheer waste - he was known for getting himself into "tired and emotional" states at times - I witnessed him getting poured in to a taxi ( reluctantly on his part) at an office party whilst belting oot the Sash with some gusto. It just comes across as an 'easy' hit, this one, doesn't it? " Look everyone! We're in charge of 'subduing' young defenceless kids who've committed no crime" sure is a diversion for the lack of chasing down and prosecuting REAL CRIMINALS. I mean, SEVEN polis in this case? It's true, sure, that many a crime's committed by people who've had far too much to drink, nobody's denying that. It's also not uniquely a Scottish problem. But there's a crucial difference between having a sense of distaste over the state some get into and treating everyone that's three sheets to the wind as a criminal, shirley? |
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Post by bormes on Feb 4, 2014 19:15:46 GMT -1
You are a hundred percent right.
Funnily enough different areas treat people differently.
I know of police phoning wives to come and collect husbands and police taking car keys off them even giving some a lift home in awful weather.
This was in a small village in a farming community. Would not happen in the big cities!!
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Post by ozneil on Feb 4, 2014 19:27:47 GMT -1
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