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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:04:43 GMT -1
Watched it all unfold late last night on social media. People just going about their Friday night: in bars and restaurants and at a gig at the Bataclan. The horror, the horror. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:10:49 GMT -1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 23:50:24 GMT -1
When the news from Le Bataclan broke, Mr R was working at a gig at the Art School; Ms R had gone on from Dram with her pals to the Cathouse's 25th Birthday party in town. They both got home around 4am, completely unaware of what had unfolded, to find me in a sobbing heap.
Of course it was only going to be a matter of time before such cowardly murderous bastards targeted a crowded music venue. And it's apparently only due to very rigorous security guards at the Stade De France that the three self-exploders who tried to get in to the football game with pre-bought tickets were challenged.
Their intent is to instil fear and turn that to their advantage by stoking Islamophobia-- as well as capitalising on the fear of gathering in public places where so much damage can be done by so few--provided they have a few guns and suicide vests of course. Such extremely deeply misguided people know no other language.
The best way for us ordinary folks to stick two fingers up to such savages is to keep going about our lives as we normally do. And to not cave in to tarring any religious or faith group with the same brush. That way lies disaster.
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Post by ozneil on Nov 15, 2015 3:11:31 GMT -1
Savages... Until they are denounced by every Muslim cleric as such they will continue to raise their ugly heads What a cowardly attack. poor people such a despicable act I see the Chinese showed French Colours on Shanghai tower .. The whole world is behind the French. French Flag alongside ours on Harbour Bridge. We had trouble locating one of the right size (think size of an old double decker bus) but we obviously found one
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Post by bormes on Nov 15, 2015 17:52:06 GMT -1
There is a HUGE amount of apologists, experts and armchair warriors spouting all over the Net. My humble opinion is that, I have mentioned often, also warned about this sort of attack and been slagged for suggesting it was when not if!! I seriously DO recognise it is a minority, HOWEVER that minority is in the hundreds of thousands and millions who actually SUPPORT them. It is up to the very, SILENT majority who refuse to integrate that MUST stop this. WE can NOT stop it, we can and should kill or arrest the perpetrators, however the islamic community MUST get their imams to STOP preaching HATE. Muslims live in our country, frankly if they can NOT live with our laws or find them mpossible to live with, then they SHOULD go to a country where they feel they CAN live with the type of society so MANY of them want, a society, pious religious ( their religion) no alcohol, women not showing their hair or body, and all other sorts of shit. I have great JOY at the thought that thousands would leave, however, unfortunately, most will stay and try to change OUR system!
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Nov 16, 2015 3:36:48 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Nov 16, 2015 3:36:48 GMT -1
From Darren Hanlon a Qld Muso in Sydney from Facebook
I think it deserves to be copied
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Post by notanimby on Nov 16, 2015 8:04:27 GMT -1
In the past while there have been multiple attacks in The Lebanon, attacks in Kenya and Iraq - the equivalent to the Paris death toll is almost a daily occurrence in the likes of Iraq - where are the media in reporting this?, where is Facebook with its Kenyan and Lebanese Flags profile pictures?
No buildings lit up with the colours of Kenya or The Lebanon........................
At well, what does it fuckin matter - they urnae white folks
Oh look a squirrel.......................
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Post by ozneil on Nov 16, 2015 22:41:11 GMT -1
Mark Steyn (A Canadian in US) hits the nail on the head
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Post by ozneil on Nov 17, 2015 22:37:40 GMT -1
In the past while there have been multiple attacks in The Lebanon, attacks in Kenya and Iraq - the equivalent to the Paris death toll is almost a daily occurrence in the likes of Iraq - where are the media in reporting this?, where is Facebook with its Kenyan and Lebanese Flags profile pictures? No buildings lit up with the colours of Kenya or The Lebanon........................ At well, what does it fuckin matter - they urnae white folks Oh look a squirrel....................... Too bloody true Nota. You could add to list American embassy bombings in Afica , Mumbai Hotel, Djakarta bombings, Nigerian atrocities, Israeli school bus et al The list is endless. Where are the United Nations??? I know!!!! discussing Australian Human rights abuses under auspices of North Korea and Man made global warming ... neither of which exist. PS News Reprt AAP
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Post by bormes on Nov 18, 2015 18:41:38 GMT -1
In all honesty, Nota is right, We DO mention much much more about our own and those we know than countries we do not live in or know well. Frankly, so what? I care more about the UK, WESTERN COUNTRIES than I do about countries where savagery is a daily concept, where treating women less than a cow is normal, yes I admit I care not much of a fuck about them, sorry if I offend anyone, it is not deliberate.
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Nov 20, 2015 2:24:31 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 2:24:31 GMT -1
From Darren Hanlon a Qld Muso in Sydney from Facebook I think it deserves to be copied Yes, Oz, that deserved to be copied, thank you for posting it. A very well written piece-- from the heart. Reflects how so many of us are feeling, conversations that start off trivial and everyday, until we get the measure of each other and then, such depth and intense feelings over such a brief encounter. No different here---or I imagine pretty much anywhere.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 2:45:58 GMT -1
In the past while there have been multiple attacks in The Lebanon, attacks in Kenya and Iraq - the equivalent to the Paris death toll is almost a daily occurrence in the likes of Iraq - where are the media in reporting this?, where is Facebook with its Kenyan and Lebanese Flags profile pictures? No buildings lit up with the colours of Kenya or The Lebanon........................ At well, what does it fuckin matter - they urnae white folks Oh look a squirrel....................... You might as well light up buildings with the Stars and Stripes on a daily basis, given that more people die in the US from gun related violence each and every day of the year. The media only report what suits their handlers, we all know this, Nota. Comparatively speaking I have never SEEN such blanket coverage of any event as this atrocity in Paris. The truth is that more people are killed by deliberate violence on a daily basis outwith Europe than within it. That the so called civilise world lights up in the Tricolour is more about the power of so called Western Civilisation, where some lives are regarded as more valuable than others. But that said. A serious line was crossed in Paris last Friday, as I see it. Totally random and indiscriminate violence that killed people of all races and creeds not just * a perceived enemy* as is more usual in civil wars elsewhere. It is just wrong to suggest it's just a media furore about 'white* folks because the toll of victims in Paris completely refutes that. It's about an attack on totally innocent folks going about their life and their work. It's about insane people who have totally and utterly lost their reason, if indeed they had any in the first place.
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Nov 20, 2015 3:19:12 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 3:19:12 GMT -1
In all honesty, Nota is right, We DO mention much much more about our own and those we know than countries we do not live in or know well. Frankly, so what? I care more about the UK, WESTERN COUNTRIES than I do about countries where savagery is a daily concept, where treating women less than a cow is normal, yes I admit I care not much of a fuck about them, sorry if I offend anyone, it is not deliberate. Look, Bormes, we're all big and ugly enough around here not to take offence We speak plainly and in trust, do we not? What I really have trouble with is two fold. First off, the total murderous bastards that are beyond humanity. Second off, the West have interfered in the relative stability of certain middle Eastern countries, have we not. And yeah, in the process, contributed to the rise of said murderous bastards. OK I grant you, those countries may not have the best record of human rights, equalities, legal systems etc. according to the West's exemplary mores. (And yeah that's sarcastic.) Do we REALLY treat women any better and with more respect, or do we just pretend that we do? (answers on a postcard)...Is it OK to let violent criminals off with 5 years for murder/rape/paedophilia? Let's TALK about that. So yeah, perhaps its incumbent on us to judge from afar from our highly enlightened viewpoint. Except it would be disingenous-- because the capitalist West merely exploits people in slightly different ways. And religious fanatics are the same the world over, no matter their colour, race or creed. Let's call it out---- our invasion and meddling in those countries is less about moral superiority and more about imperialist/colonialist tendencies, so as to control their assets for *our* supposed gain. Our *masters* don't actually give a flying f**k for human rights, that's just a smokescreen. For pity's sake, how MANY of us protested against UK's going into Iraq and Afghanistan, just to appease our US paymasters? We should have left well alone. Head in hands here...can't we all just see what's going to happen next? Our Tory govt is about to use their majority to send in UK troops to Syria and they intend to do that without UN's sanction. . Let's not even pretend otherwise. It's called *boots on the ground* now. Doesn't that sound all sexy and Hollywood? Except it means kids coming home in bits in body bags. Let's keep the head here. And not use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. And most importantly don't let the MEDIA control us to the point we lose all proportion. It's in THEIR INTERESTS that we are controlled by fear. That's just how certain governments want it.
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Nov 20, 2015 8:02:36 GMT -1
Post by notanimby on Nov 20, 2015 8:02:36 GMT -1
In the past while there have been multiple attacks in The Lebanon, attacks in Kenya and Iraq - the equivalent to the Paris death toll is almost a daily occurrence in the likes of Iraq - where are the media in reporting this?, where is Facebook with its Kenyan and Lebanese Flags profile pictures? No buildings lit up with the colours of Kenya or The Lebanon........................ At well, what does it fuckin matter - they urnae white folks Oh look a squirrel....................... You might as well light up buildings with the Stars and Stripes on a daily basis, given that more people die in the US from gun related violence each and every day of the year. The media only report what suits their handlers, we all know this, Nota. Comparatively speaking I have never SEEN such blanket coverage of any event as this atrocity in Paris. The truth is that more people are killed by deliberate violence on a daily basis outwith Europe than within it. That the so called civilise world lights up in the Tricolour is more about the power of so called Western Civilisation, where some lives are regarded as more valuable than others. But that said. A serious line was crossed in Paris last Friday, as I see it. Totally random and indiscriminate violence that killed people of all races and creeds not just * a perceived enemy* as is more usual in civil wars elsewhere. It is just wrong to suggest it's just a media furore about 'white* folks because the toll of victims in Paris completely refutes that. It's about an attack on totally innocent folks going about their life and their work. It's about insane people who have totally and utterly lost their reason, if indeed they had any in the first place. The toll of victims in Paris doesn't refute it, they could have been tartan coloured, but as it was done by perceived furriners the non-whiter the better in the "white" west the detail of who was who means nothing as the media still class the West as white when it suits them The line that was crossed last Friday was that it was in the West, giving the "West"a terrible boot up the erse of a reality check of what life's like elsewhere outside their cosy comfort zone The lives of westerners isn't any more valuable than some poor bugger in Nigeria, Kenya, The Lebanon or anywhere else Maybe some folk will now sit up and take notice that when you bomb the shit outa folk ( whoever or whatever the reasons) then you canna really be shocked they strike back Anyways moving on slightly - anyone spot the irony in the London gathering it support Paris was held in Trafalgar Square?
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Post by bormes on Nov 20, 2015 19:27:45 GMT -1
France never bombed Iraq. They refused to go in. THEY tried to stop the Lybian carry on. They have the biggest group of muslims in Europe. There is not a colour problem at all. We naturally report our own problems first, normal, these countries do the same. Islamic people do not integrate. Islamic people are being silent. ANYONE muslim or not who, Wants to kill you for being gay, Wants to kill you for being apostate. Wants to kill you for drawing a Cartoon. Wants to kill you for adultry, now if THAT was to happen in Glasgow, there would not be a soul in any Disco in the whole of Scotland FFS. Now, almost everyone who is a muslim who has arrived in the Uk during bliars open door policy for cheap labour for his multi national pals, DOES sympathise with these extremists, they have lived all their lives in a country with these laws and think it is normal, only when they arrive here do they realise there IS a different possibility, yet the MAJORITY STILL think like they used to, they believe the shite these bitter twisted imams who preach hate about our western culture and way of life. I do not care if a young Lassie wears short skirts, in fact it is lovely, they can wear make up and drink too, regarding Lads, they might get pissed, yes I have too, none of these things is worth being beaten for yet the religious police in these countries would beat you for that and much less. Therefore befor we criticise ordinary people with questions and worries, think about that. On a final note, POLICE SCOTLAND IS NOT FIT NOR ABLE TO STOP A SERIOUS TERRORIST ATTACK. NOR ARE OUR FORCES nonsense DEPLOYED IN A WAY TO DO SO EITHER. IF THEY ATTACKED RURAL SOFT TARGETS, IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE CURRENTLY TO STOP THEM, On top of that our Police DO NOT have the firepower nor TRAINING to stop trained terrorists. IT IS IRRESPONSIBLE TO THINK A POLICEMAN SHOULD PUT THEIR LIFE ON THE LINE WITHOUT PROPER TRAINING OR EQUIPMENT! I do not care one fuck what colour you are, I do care if you are a murdering scumbag whether you are an ira or muslim one. We can feel sorrow for other countries who have had tragedies, but we do not know them so MATURALLY we care about our own FIRST. Our country will rightly CONTINUE to open our doors to those in danger who deserve it, as we always have done, we ARE decent people, we also give more to charity than anyone else. We must not have the PISS taken out of us by economic migrants and illegal migrants who do HARM to the women and children that we should be helping by stealing their places. If they go to Syria or elsewhere to fight for our enemies then they should NOT be allowed back, EVER. The only good terrorist, Is a dead terrorist.
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