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Post by notanimby on Jun 17, 2011 5:02:13 GMT -1
[ yoo huv ben tae gourock tae get ra ferry tae dunoon? Indeedy. But you confuse me, sire. The Tall Ships were moored as far as I remember at Greenock? For my not inconsiderable sins I got the job of organising the crews' onshore hangout at the whatsitsname leesure centre down on the front. (Next to the godforsaken retail park with the KFC and Tesco shite) 24/7 buffet, bar and musical entertainment. The sight of the uber-cool Mexicans striding on to the dancefloor in full uniform showing us how to REALLY do the Macarena will stay with me till the day I shuffle off ;D Mr Rolo's working it this year, so apologies in advance to local residents for the noise he plans to make I'm gutted to be committed elsewhere actually cos I'd love to hear a full blown rendition of Dignity played out live on the quayside with the Tall Ships as a backdrop ah i thought you were jist talkin aboot inverclyde in general. yes indeedy that is a sdhite retail park - a stoiry involved there but thast furra another day, coonsil looked a gift horse in the erse and walked away - duh! tall ships is in a diffrint location this time - next tae ra big sugar sheds - crackin harbour there and up to wards the port glesga - greenock boundary
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Post by westender on Jun 17, 2011 10:56:14 GMT -1
[ yoo huv ben tae gourock tae get ra ferry tae dunoon? Indeedy. But you confuse me, sire. The Tall Ships were moored as far as I remember at Greenock? I think he's talking about the view. Wow, WHAT a gig! I think that may officially be the coolest thing embdy I know has ever done. Hats off to you!
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Post by westender on Jun 17, 2011 10:57:33 GMT -1
carckin harbourthere an dup to ? ;D
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Post by heidie on Jun 17, 2011 11:50:56 GMT -1
Would nota come to help you rolo? Hell now, there's an excellent idea that never occurred to me All offers of help gratefully received ;D It'll be a positive campaign, promoting all the achievements of the SNP government thus far. And we will be respectful, given the circumstances of the by election. Negative campaigning and slagging off the opponents is not how we do things anyway ;D That wilny take youse long then ehno?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 19:37:21 GMT -1
Hell now, there's an excellent idea that never occurred to me All offers of help gratefully received ;D It'll be a positive campaign, promoting all the achievements of the SNP government thus far. And we will be respectful, given the circumstances of the by election. Negative campaigning and slagging off the opponents is not how we do things anyway ;D That wilny take youse long then ehno? Hedley m'dear, you can opt out of free scrips, free personal care, free education for Scottish students and your free bus pass any time you like by voting for any of the other parties Mind you, hell knows how you'd scrape the ice off the windscreen of your Ferrari without the handy latter
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Post by stan on Jun 17, 2011 22:32:00 GMT -1
I quite enjoy standing beside directors of clearing banks, Cabinet Secretaries, High Court Judges, QCs and MSPs and other needy souls in the queue for free prescriptions.
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Post by notanimby on Jun 17, 2011 22:50:26 GMT -1
I quite enjoy standing beside directors of clearing banks, Cabinet Secretaries, High Court Judges, QCs and MSPs and other needy souls in the queue for free prescriptions. NHS free at the point of need. Apparently it actually cost more in bureaucracy to collect the money for the 10% of all prescriptions that were paid for than they actually collected in. It also makes the pharmacists job a lot less paperwork intensive too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2011 22:54:15 GMT -1
Point taken, Stan ;D So at what household income level would you suggest we restrict these currently universal benefits?
£25K? £40K? £100K? £1 mil?
What about elderly folks who're most in need of the NHS who live in bought and paid for homes but have no income other than state pension, would you deny them free scrips for being 'rich'?
Maybe you believe we should force lifelong council house tenants to sell their worldly goods to pay for their personal care?
Is it only 'professional' people you have a beef with? What about tradesmen who earn more than an MSP or a high ranking civil servant? Are they OK to draw down benefits because they're 'working' people?
Discuss!
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Post by heidie on Jun 18, 2011 6:12:49 GMT -1
Rolo,your use of the word "free" is very disengenuous,we all pay for these services with OUR money at the end of the day,which was taken from us via taxes etc,so how come you and others like you attribute this largesse and "goodwill" to our political masters benevolent nature?
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Post by bormes on Jun 18, 2011 8:27:43 GMT -1
I think both Nota and Heidie have it correct. Stan you move in exalted company!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2011 19:00:49 GMT -1
Rolo,your use of the word "free" is very disengenuous,we all pay for these services with OUR money at the end of the day,which was taken from us via taxes etc,so how come you and others like you attribute this largesse and "goodwill" to our political masters benevolent nature? I'll tell you why, Heidie ;D The people of England have none of the 'free' services I mentioned; they pay for prescriptions, personal care and tertiary education, and they don't have free bus passes for seniors. These very issues are causing unrest among some of our neighbours who continue to insist Scotland treats its people better than England does, due to their 'subsidising' us. Which is of course utter tosh On devolved issues such as health, education and travel the SNP government sets its own spending priorities with the money available to it through Scotland's share of national tax income. My question back at ya is whether you believe that the 'free' services we enjoy set the tone for the kind of society we want to live in? If you agree there's a widespread benefit in these services, I don't see that you have an argument. If you disagree, I'd ask you where you would choose to spend the dosh saved by curtailing these free services?
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Post by heidie on Jun 18, 2011 19:09:53 GMT -1
I never mentioned curtailing them at all but look at it this way as in Nota's post it cost more in bureaucracy to administer these services mibbes it would save and be more efficient to let us keep more of our taxes and pay for them directly ourselves...discuss...
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Post by ozneil on Jun 18, 2011 21:38:25 GMT -1
I'll argue with you Rolo.
I think your whole welfare system is arse for elbow.
Surely it would be better to encourage those that can pay (Stan's elite) to pay & make more ££s available for those that cant.
As an example take medicines.
If someone is earning over $50,000 they pay full value up to $1,500.00
Below $50,000.00 they get a Commonwealth card & get their medicines at a fixed price
If they are on Welfare or an OAP like Heidie they get medicines free.
The same applies to all "welfare payments" Tertiary Educations works on a different system
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Post by stan on Jun 18, 2011 22:46:02 GMT -1
I think both Nota and Heidie have it correct. Stan you move in exalted company!! I do indeed. The above notwithstanding, it's possible you have a point to make. If you manage, unlikely as that sounds, to work out what it is - feel free to share. Don't worry about the niceties of spelling, punctuation or grammar (as if you'd start now).
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Post by notanimby on Jun 19, 2011 8:00:53 GMT -1
the good subjects of engerland should be complaining they do not have these "free" services, not that they don't so others shouldnae
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