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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2014 21:49:54 GMT -1
Being an ex-priest doesn't necessarily imply nonce-status does it?
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Some interesting rumours there re La Garenne and the father of a lost child. I imagine if there's concrete evidence coming to light about either of the two then the process of law'll take its course?
Some conspiracy theories have a basis in fact, others don't.
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Post by notanimby on May 14, 2014 5:52:54 GMT -1
Being an ex-priest doesn't necessarily imply nonce-status does it? (discuss) Some interesting rumours there re La Garenne and the father of a lost child. I imagine if there's concrete evidence coming to light about either of the two then the process of law'll take its course? Some conspiracy theories have a basis in fact, others don't. ex-priest: I should maybe explain further, in reality he just doesn't do the job anymore, but one is always a priest for evermore unless de-frocked by the high heidyins in The Vatican - even that can be reversed for a suitable pension Also I never implied nonce-status just that it was an unusual arrangement that he kept hidden for donkeys years, if it is a relationship based on more than being good chums, then walk in the light about it, there's hee-haw wrong with being gay - plenty wrong with hiding your sexuality in order to keep a lie constructed - as that house of cards will come tumbling down with disastrous results In fact, if he is gay, then someone like him "coming out" would have a huge impact on people accepting homosexual relationships, his fans probably tend to be of a more conservative elderly nature - the demographic who probably still speak in hushed tones of such relationships As for the alleged nonce claims - that'll come out in the wash sooner rather than later - remember I predicted the jimmy saville expose ( sorry but I don't do lottery number predictions - well I do but not successfully) |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 18:37:14 GMT -1
ex-priest: I should maybe explain further, in reality he just doesn't do the job anymore, but one is always a priest for evermore unless de-frocked by the high heidyins in The Vatican - even that can be reversed for a suitable pension Also I never implied nonce-status just that it was an unusual arrangement that he kept hidden for donkeys years, if it is a relationship based on more than being good chums, then walk in the light about it, there's hee-haw wrong with being gay - plenty wrong with hiding your sexuality in order to keep a lie constructed - as that house of cards will come tumbling down with disastrous results In fact, if he is gay, then someone like him "coming out" would have a huge impact on people accepting homosexual relationships, his fans probably tend to be of a more conservative elderly nature - the demographic who probably still speak in hushed tones of such relationships As for the alleged nonce claims - that'll come out in the wash sooner rather than later - remember I predicted the jimmy saville expose ( sorry but I don't do lottery number predictions - well I do but not successfully) I think you got it right referring to the more elderly generation's view of homosexuality, Nota. I'm not sure the *arrangement* is that unusual though--in people with a certain public persona, of the generation Cliff's a member of. Exact same scenario with Dirk Bogarde, who lived *secretly* with his agent in Provence. And Rock Hudson *hid* his sexuality for years for the same reasons. So did Jodie Foster. Remember as late as the mid-50s, being openly gay was still a criminal offence in the UK, I don't know about other countries... Just re priests: said it before, say it again. It's unrealistic in the extreme to expect people to live a celibate life: for two reasons mainly. Because it's against every human instinct and because it simply *has* to lead to a lack of experience/understanding/compassion when dealing with life/families/people in general. Not that that's ANY EXCUSE for those who abuse young children. You'll find them in all walks of life. Interesting to see how the Rolf Harris case is panning out this week. |
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Post by notanimby on May 14, 2014 19:45:54 GMT -1
ex-priest: I should maybe explain further, in reality he just doesn't do the job anymore, but one is always a priest for evermore unless de-frocked by the high heidyins in The Vatican - even that can be reversed for a suitable pension Also I never implied nonce-status just that it was an unusual arrangement that he kept hidden for donkeys years, if it is a relationship based on more than being good chums, then walk in the light about it, there's hee-haw wrong with being gay - plenty wrong with hiding your sexuality in order to keep a lie constructed - as that house of cards will come tumbling down with disastrous results In fact, if he is gay, then someone like him "coming out" would have a huge impact on people accepting homosexual relationships, his fans probably tend to be of a more conservative elderly nature - the demographic who probably still speak in hushed tones of such relationships As for the alleged nonce claims - that'll come out in the wash sooner rather than later - remember I predicted the jimmy saville expose ( sorry but I don't do lottery number predictions - well I do but not successfully) I think you got it right referring to the more elderly generation's view of homosexuality, Nota. I'm not sure the *arrangement* is that unusual though--in people with a certain public persona, of the generation Cliff's a member of. Exact same scenario with Dirk Bogarde, who lived *secretly* with his agent in Provence. And Rock Hudson *hid* his sexuality for years for the same reasons. So did Jodie Foster. Remember as late as the mid-50s, being openly gay was still a criminal offence in the UK, I don't know about other countries... Just re priests: said it before, say it again. It's unrealistic in the extreme to expect people to live a celibate life: for two reasons mainly. Because it's against every human instinct and because it simply *has* to lead to a lack of experience/understanding/compassion when dealing with life/families/people in general. Not that that's ANY EXCUSE for those who abuse young children. You'll find them in all walks of life. Interesting to see how the Rolf Harris case is panning out this week. Celebrity homosexual relationships have always been, in a lot of cases more open than most other professions, especially in the arts. Noel coward, Michael Redgrave or Cary grant/Randolph Scott in days of yore still today in some cases hidden behind the net curtains of suburbia, who for instance cares about Patricia routledge ( hyacinth Bucket ) and Betty boothroyd living together as a couple or Moirai Stewart in a relationship with pam st clement, similar generation to cliff but no one is bothered. Cliffs problem, if he is gay is that he's painted himself into a corner with hiss good living Christian facade, he'll be o worried about getting painted as a hypocrit |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 17:44:02 GMT -1
Doesn't the Christian faith accept homosexuality then?
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Post by ozneil on May 15, 2014 20:38:59 GMT -1
Frankly who gives a bugger* about gays? I dont, just not interested in who is or who isnt. Personally I think they must have a screw* loose with all these gorgeous ladies around! eg  I just hate kids being hurt in any way and their trust and innocence being destroyed by these vile creatures I hesitate to call them men  *pun intended |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 22:56:55 GMT -1
In this week's trial whereby Rolf Harris is charged with multiple offences towards young girls age 7 to 14, it was presented as evidence today that he wrote a note to one of their family members saying " It takes two to tango'. What a complete and UTTER betrayal of the trusting nature of children. FUCK!
It was also stated that he wrote a note to one of his victim's fathers, trying to excuse himself-- and by way of apparent apology. As if to appeal man-to-man over some chattel or other. Christ.
Mother of one victim said she found it a bit odd that Rolf visited her young daughter in her bedroom of an evening but she 'trusted' him. Would that be because he was 'famous" I wonder?
Thereby the nub of the whole shebang. People are so fucking dazzled by *celebrity* that trust is somehow SO wrongly placed if not implicit. And don't the nonces just know it.
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Post by ozneil on May 15, 2014 23:58:57 GMT -1
In this week's trial whereby Rolf Harris is charged with multiple offences towards young girls age 7 to 14, it was presented as evidence today that he wrote a note to one of their family members saying " It takes two to tango'. What a complete and UTTER betrayal of the trusting nature of children. FUCK! It was also stated that he wrote a note to one of his victim's fathers, trying to excuse himself-- and by way of apparent apology. As if to appeal man-to-man over some chattel or other. Christ. Mother of one victim said she found it a bit odd that Rolf visited her young daughter in her bedroom of an evening but she 'trusted' him. Would that be because he was 'famous" I wonder? Thereby the nub of the whole shebang. People are so fucking dazzled by *celebrity* that trust is somehow SO wrongly placed if not implicit. And don't the nonces just know it. What a betrayal of trust. What a complete maggot. How could anyone sink so low. My horror and disgust with them knows no bounds. I cannot find suitable words, even in such a beautiful language as English to describe my loathing of them This morning I went down drive to pick up paper and saw a little toddler wandering down road (its a cul de sac) towards the reserve which has a flowing creek. I looked round for carer ...none!!! my first reaction was to grab the kid and try and find parents. BUT because of all these paedoes around I darent touch him so raced up drive and grabbed Mrs Oz and raced back. The toddler saw us, he is about 18 months to 2 years old, and came over to us. We were trying to find out where mummy was when she literally shot out of a drive, about warp speed 5, further up the road . She was so relieved when she saw him with us she grabbed him and hugged him . She had been searching house for him and didnt think he could have escaped. Its a sad reflection on socirty that I darent even hold his hand and comfort him |
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Post by Sir Henry Rawlinson on May 16, 2014 4:57:15 GMT -1
Suspect humour.......
That's jokes an' stuff right ?
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Post by Sir Henry Rawlinson on May 16, 2014 4:59:09 GMT -1
Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson were going camping. They pitched their tent under the stars and went to sleep. Sometime in the middle of the night Holmes woke Watson up and said: "Watson, look up at the sky, and tell me what you see."
Watson replied: "I see millions and millions of stars."
Holmes said: "And what do you deduce from that?"
Watson replied: "Well, if there are millions of stars, and if even a few of those have planets, it’s quite likely there are some planets like Earth out there. And if there are a few planets like Earth out there, there might also be life."
And Holmes said: "Watson, you twat, it means that somebody has stolen our tent."
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Post by Sir Henry Rawlinson on May 16, 2014 5:00:55 GMT -1
A man goes to the doctor with a long history of migraine headaches. When the doctor does his history and physical, he discovers that the poor guy has tried practically every therapy known to man for his migraines and STILL no improvement.
"Listen," says the doc, "I have migraines, too and the advice I'm going to give you isn't really anything I learned in medical school, but it's advice that I've gotten from my own experience. When I have a migraine, I go home, get in a nice hot bathtub, and soak for a while. Then I have my wife sponge me off with the hottest water I can stand, especially around the forehead. This helps a little. Then I get out of the tub, take her into the bedroom, and even if my head is killing me, I force myself to have sex with her. Almost always, the headache is immediately gone. Now, give it a try, and come back and see me in six weeks."
Six weeks later, the patient returns with a big grin. "Doc! I took our advice and it works! It REALLY WORKS! I've had migraines for 17 years and this is the FIRST time anyone has ever helped me!"
"Well," says the physician, "I'm glad I could help."
"By the way, Doc," the patient adds, "You have a REALLY nice house
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Post by ozneil on May 16, 2014 5:49:02 GMT -1
I agree with Sir Hank can you move posts that are in wrong thread to a new one administrator?
Back to jokes in poor taste or worse!
Guy goes to doctor with blinding headaches behind his eyes Doc can find nothing wrong and after all the tests the NHS can provide (both of them) The specialists say the only cure is castration. The headaches are so bad the guy reluctantly agrees
After the operation the head aches stop he reckons it was worth it .
One day he goes into Forsyths to get new underpants and asks as usual for 36". The elderly assistant says "excuse me sir but you look like a 38" at least". The assistant is told not to be impertinent and get the 36 as the guy has been wearing them for years and he knows very well what fits him. (Upper class twit) The assistant says "I have been fitting gentlemen for 30 years and I can tell you should be wearing 38. If you dont you will get blinding headaches behind your eyes"
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2014 22:58:52 GMT -1
I agree with Sir Hank can you move posts that are in wrong thread to a new one administrator? Back to jokes in poor taste or worse! Aye, I know, we wandered wayyy off thread there, sorry  If I can remember how to move posts I will, if not, let them lie and I'll be stricter in future if we all wander off topic! |
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Post by Sir Henry Rawlinson on May 17, 2014 6:06:38 GMT -1
There's nothing worse than a Doctor's Receptionist who insists you tell her what is wrong with you, in a room full of other patients. I know most of us have experienced this, and I love the way this old guy handled it.
A 75-year-old man walked into a crowded waiting room and approached the desk. The Receptionist said, 'Yes sir, what are you seeing the Doctor for today?'
'There's something wrong with my dick', he replied.
The receptionist became irritated and said, 'You shouldn't come into a crowded waiting room and say things like that.'
'Why not, you asked me what was wrong and I told you,' he said.
The Receptionist replied; 'Now you have caused some needless embarrassment in this room full of people. You should have said there is something wrong with your ear or something and discussed the problem further with the Doctor in private.'
The man replied, 'You should not ask people questions in a roomful of strangers if the answer could embarrass anyone.' The man then decided to walk out, waited several minutes and then re-entered.
The Receptionist smiled smugly and asked, 'Yes??'
'There's something wrong with my ear,' he stated loudly.
The Receptionist nodded approvingly and smiled, knowing he had taken her advice. 'What is wrong with your ear, Sir?'
'I can't piss out of it,' he replied.
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Post by notanimby on May 17, 2014 15:22:46 GMT -1
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