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Mar 10, 2014 22:43:56 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 22:43:56 GMT -1
They are only ghoulish because that is what the "public" wants to see. Since I have two people flying on two separate trips right now, I'm unhappy. I'm more freaked out over flying myself this summer. Damn it. Damn it indeed, P. Something catastrophic happened to this plane, though. It's either pilot error or terrorism, IMV. Both are incredibly rare. Just stepping out of our houses every day poses far greater risks than flying (see my *risk assessment* on funding application on another thread!...) Fear of flying is rational, all the same. I doubt anyone here doesn't feel the relief when the wheels hit the ground and we've got away with it yet again.. What's happened to this flight is everybody's worst nightmare. But it won't stop me flying, I'll just be evenn more fright when I next do.
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Mar 10, 2014 22:45:52 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 10, 2014 22:45:52 GMT -1
Its still safer than crossing road.
Daughters best friend has been flying for a regional airline for 20 odd years and she hasnt lost or even mislaid a passenger yet though some male passengers are a bit upset when they find out captain's name is Bec (Rebeccaa). Even worse if first officer is also female.
Some Asian airports security is very lax which it certainly isnt in US or Heathrow or Sydney
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Mar 11, 2014 7:38:09 GMT -1
Post by bormes on Mar 11, 2014 7:38:09 GMT -1
Some countries, I am sure you have an idea who I mean are ENDEMIC with corruption all through their society. Now that may just be their way of barter or whatever but in my experience bribing a worker or an official is much much easier in these countries than in the UK. It is almost in fact it IS expected for minor things. That does not mean it would be easy to plant a bomb but it would be easy to plant a bomb by bribing a worker say and letting him think one was smuggling a wee bit of hash or Rhino horn or something that would not seem dangerous.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:12:43 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 19:12:43 GMT -1
This whole thing just gets weirder and weirder.
Now the military have pitched in with evidence that the plane completely changed course and went West so now the search area's been widened by hundreds of miles.
What's totally bizarre are the reports from families who, on calling their rellies mobiles, find they're still ringing after 3/4 days. Can that be true or just a figment of some journalist's imagination?
All sorts of mad theories being posted online now. Just human nature, I guess-- we all want to know how a plane could just 'disappear' like this.
Very very strange. And the horror remains for those families, who must still, somehow, be hoping their folks are safe somewhere. Must be Hell on Earth for those souls.
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Mar 11, 2014 19:37:42 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 11, 2014 19:37:42 GMT -1
As I understand it commercial airliners are given a squawk number by ACT and the plane's transponder automatically sends altitude, track and speed to ATC which shows their position on a "radar" screen. If transponder is switched off the blip on screen disappears. If plane is out of radar range its position will be unknown. Ir may still be on radar as an unidentified blip if within range
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Mar 11, 2014 19:54:14 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 19:54:14 GMT -1
If I've understood the reports right, the commercial ATC lost sight of the flight just after it dropped altitude but the military radar in the area continued-----somehow---to track it for a further hour. But that might be disinformation, of course. There's a lot of it about.... But just to echo Peony, it's completely out of proportion I know, but I have two staffers travelling at the moment via NYC out to Austin Texas for South By South West. Two young guys, who've been hellish tolerant of my pretendy-nonchalant texts.. It's ridiculous of me of course I'd never dream of being anxious about folks travelling by train or bus if there'd been an incident elsewhere. <gives self a slap>
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Mar 11, 2014 20:04:05 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 11, 2014 20:04:05 GMT -1
When we have people flying we follow them on "flightradar24.com"
With Cheapy airfares Grandaughter has already flown home for the weekend from Coolangatta to see boy friend $65 each way'
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Mar 11, 2014 20:25:31 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 20:25:31 GMT -1
I'd not heard of that site before now. To be honest I've never 'tracked' family flyers except for one time my sister was hellish delayed in Majorca, sans internet and without any info from bloody Ryanair. I got more info off the Palma airport site than she was given, bizarrely. I knew Granddaughter-Oz was up the coast a bit at Uni, but never realised it was Coolangatta. I've hugely happy memories of spending a whole week there when on tour with the band. We took apartments on the beach just next to the bird reserve and drove out to our gigs every night up and down the coast. It was/is paradise
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Mar 11, 2014 21:26:00 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 11, 2014 21:26:00 GMT -1
I'd not heard of that site before now. To be honest I've never 'tracked' family flyers except for one time my sister was hellish delayed in Majorca, sans internet and without any info from bloody Ryanair. I got more info off the Palma airport site than she was given, bizarrely. I knew Granddaughter-Oz was up the coast a bit at Uni, but never realised it was Coolangatta. I've hugely happy memories of spending a whole week there when on tour with the band. We took apartments on the beach just next to the bird reserve and drove out to our gigs every night up and down the coast. It was/is paradise She's a bit North of Coolangatta at Labrador still on Gold Coast
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Mar 11, 2014 23:42:08 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2014 23:42:08 GMT -1
Oh well that's different. It's grim up there.
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Mar 11, 2014 23:48:01 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 11, 2014 23:48:01 GMT -1
Oh well that's different. It's grim up there. Not that one I should have said Southport its between them Not a poley in sight
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Mar 12, 2014 1:15:11 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 12, 2014 1:15:11 GMT -1
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Mar 12, 2014 8:04:03 GMT -1
Post by notanimby on Mar 12, 2014 8:04:03 GMT -1
Flaming colonials and naming places efter somewhere else
FFS - even the russiansare at it, naming their capital efter a wee place in Ayrshire
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Mar 12, 2014 20:42:09 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 12, 2014 20:42:09 GMT -1
Flaming colonials and naming places efter somewhere else FFS - even the russiansare at it, naming their capital efter a wee place in Ayrsh*te Yeah and the Scots pinched it off the yanks in Idaho Worst is Perth everyone knows its in WA but u Scots nicked the name Going up to Brisbane I pass thru Newcastle, Scone, Rutherford, Aberdeen, Armidale and my fav Mt Ben Lomond. The RAAF have a big airbase at Edinburgh. Great wine is made by Brown Brothers in Rutherglen. There is no Glasgow but a Giffnock Avenue in Ryde. Ayr is in Far North Queensland (FNQ) God you mob will plagerise anything Mind you the Yanks stole Texas Everyone knows its a town in Queensland
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Mar 12, 2014 22:01:56 GMT -1
Post by peony on Mar 12, 2014 22:01:56 GMT -1
cityofedinburg.com/Here in Texas they can't even spell it correctly. Of course Houston is spelled correctly. How in the hell does an airplane and 239 people just vanish from the face of the earth? I have a more perilous question. If the plane broke apart mid air, if the explosion didn't knock someone out, wouldn't being without oxygen at least make people pass out?
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