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Mar 12, 2014 23:02:39 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 12, 2014 23:02:39 GMT -1
cityofedinburg.com/Here in Texas they can't even spell it correctly. Of course Houston is spelled correctly. How in the hell does an airplane and 239 people just vanish from the face of the earth? I have a more perilous question. If the plane broke apart mid air, if the explosion didn't knock someone out, wouldn't being without oxygen at least make people pass out? decompression, lack of oxygen and cold would make them lose consciousness very quickly
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Mar 13, 2014 16:34:25 GMT -1
Post by peony on Mar 13, 2014 16:34:25 GMT -1
That's what I was hoping. Thanks. No one tell me if that's not true, ok?
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Mar 13, 2014 20:33:08 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 20:33:08 GMT -1
That's what I was hoping. Thanks. No one tell me if that's not true, ok? I'm guessing why you asked that question, P. I remember the same question being asked after the Lockerbie disaster. Hoping for minimal suffering for those on board. Some are saying the whole thing's become farcical (not the word I'd use personally). Search parameters getting wider by the day cos the plane could fly for 4/5 hours on autopilot. That's one huge area in every direction. Wean said earlier she hoped they were on an island somewhere so they could survive by fishing and foraging until they were found. And that there might have been a doctor on board to help any injured. You never know, she said. How struck I was by the difference in outlook between a young woman and her auld ma. You never know, indeed.
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Mar 13, 2014 20:37:01 GMT -1
Post by notanimby on Mar 13, 2014 20:37:01 GMT -1
That's what I was hoping. Thanks. No one tell me if that's not true, ok? I'm guessing why you asked that question, P. I remember the same question being asked after the Lockerbie disaster. Hoping for minimal suffering for those on board. Some are saying the whole thing's become farcical (not the word I'd use personally). Search parameters getting wider by the day cos the plane could fly for 4/5 hours on autopilot. That's one huge area in every direction. Wean said earlier she hoped they were on an island somewhere so they could survive by fishing and foraging until they were found. And that there might have been a doctor on board to help any injured. You never know, she said. How struck I was by the difference in outlook between a young woman and her auld ma. You never know, indeed. Sadly I don't see this turning out like "the Admirable Creighton" .........
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Mar 13, 2014 20:43:30 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 20:43:30 GMT -1
Or "Lost"...
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Mar 13, 2014 20:54:27 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2014 20:54:27 GMT -1
But just to echo Peony, it's completely out of proportion I know, but I have two staffers travelling at the moment via NYC out to Austin Texas for South By South West. Two young guys, who've been hellish tolerant of my pretendy-nonchalant texts.. It's ridiculous of me of course I'd never dream of being anxious about folks travelling by train or bus if there'd been an incident elsewhere. <gives self a slap> The irony, the irony. The boys reassured me when they'd landed safe in Austin the other day. Except first thing this morning I read with horror the report of 23 injured and 2 killed when a drunk-driver ploughed into a crowd waiting to get into a SXSW showcase gig. I only briefly considered the 6-hour time difference and phoned em anyway Only to hear they were safe, but had been in the queue at the venue 20 minutes before the incident and had decided to leave because it was so busy. It's all so bloody random, isn't it.
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Mar 15, 2014 1:47:49 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 1:47:49 GMT -1
So, a week since the plane vanished, bejasus. What utter hell for all those directly involved.
Don't know about you guys but I'm finding it hard to credit that, given our so-called sophisticated communications, our satellites, and other beep beep boxes and all that malarkey, that we're no further forward in knowing what has happened here.
*Somebody* knows, though.
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Mar 15, 2014 17:36:29 GMT -1
Post by peony on Mar 15, 2014 17:36:29 GMT -1
I think lots of people know. Not the Malaysians, who seem to be sort of dumbfounded. What would be the reason to steal an airplane and then do it in unless the media knew. Seems sort of counter intuitive.
I don't think those poor souls will be found alive.
Oh Rolo, I heard about that thing in Austin and was just stunned. For all the to do about drugs and so forth, I think that drink has caused more death and despair than any other drug. Two people dead and more than a few injured.
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Mar 15, 2014 18:28:07 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 18:28:07 GMT -1
Re the plane, check this out: www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/03/15/mh370_the_634_runways_where_malaysian_airlines_flight_could_have_landed.htmlThe WHY of course is an entirely different matter. Agree with you about drink causing more destruction than any other drug, Peony. Just on the case of that wee girl, The Arches club was hauled in front of the licencing committee yesterday and have been allowed to remain open provided they implement 21 new measures-- including high tech scanning gear to detect fake ID's. The girl was 17 and was carrying ID of a girl age 19. Arches were quick to raise the entry age to 21, the only club I know that's done so. I'm all for clubs being as protective of young people as possible. But had she not been let in, would the outcome have been any different? These kids take the stuff before going in, the way so many think nothing of tanking half a bottle of vodka they've bought in shops to save money on buying club drinks. Misuse of all drugs, legal or illegal, is a cultural problem, surely? I mean, there wouldn't be demands to close down a MacDonalds if a smack addict od'd in the toilet..
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Mar 15, 2014 19:54:28 GMT -1
Post by peony on Mar 15, 2014 19:54:28 GMT -1
There is just something so haunting about this missing plane. I guess it's the possibility that they are still alive. So horrifying for the families.
I was at the dog park the other morning and a guy said his cousin was supposed to be on that flight, but through devine intervention, he was not. Another lady who is really generally very laid back not likely to make a fuss, just came unglued and gave him a good ranting. "You think you are more valued than the other 200 plus people on there?" etc.etc. It was a well done rant, I can tell you.
Her daughter and mine (separately) happened to both be flying and we were nervous about anyone flying. Also Mr. P was flying back from Australia (Perth) and just now landed in Dallas (well, he was actually flying to oz when it happened). So my flyers are on safe ground for the time being.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:21:42 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 20:21:42 GMT -1
I kind of think everyone's feeling the same, Peony. Haunted's exactly the right word. And bewilderment-- and worry for our fellow-souls in the sky, specially this week when the randomness has been so highlighted.. I'm glad your girl and Mr P are fine, and my two out in Texas this week too. Re ranting lady. How bloody right she is. There's been a fair bit of discussion here over how this initial disappearance was reported in our Western media. As in "Plane missing, one American, two Europeans on board..." This happens routinely whenever there's a disaster: each country seems to report it solely in terms of how it might affect US and OURS. Almost like, OK, there's no British involved so that's all OK then... I've never understood it. There are 239 souls missing. Their nationality is irrelevant.
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Mar 15, 2014 20:52:20 GMT -1
Post by ozneil on Mar 15, 2014 20:52:20 GMT -1
I totally agree with the sentiments of both Peony and Rolo. Its always worrying (well not quite worrying a bit less) when your nearest and dearest are flying you can't help but being concerned.
Reported here as 6 Australians and 2 Kiwis. How parochial and insensitive
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Mar 15, 2014 21:29:36 GMT -1
Post by notanimby on Mar 15, 2014 21:29:36 GMT -1
It's nothing new, remember the alleged headline in the Aberdeen Press & Journal one day in April 1912
North East man lost at sea - how they announced he loss of the Titanic
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Mar 19, 2014 23:49:11 GMT -1
Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2014 23:49:11 GMT -1
I am so fucking sick of the media and the emotional vampirism that is going on. What is newsworthy in showing the face of the grief stricken? Who can't imagine how they feel? Seriously the plane disappearing is news, grief is never news or entertainment. We have lost our way as a species. Your comment came into sharp focus for me again tonight, Peony. I was getting changed to go out earlier, news on in the background on the wee bedroom telly and I stopped short seeing the most AWFUL, HARROWING footage of a poor lady at the press conference in Malaysia. I imagine many of us will have seen it tonight. I do agree the press/tv can get wholly intrusive, yes. But I learned something terrible tonight re how the Malaysian government/militia are treating these desperate families. I could hardly believe what I was seeing If such awful scenes of personal suffering on TV can help hold authorities to account then there's a case (I think) for broadcasting them. This whole thing has gone MAD.
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Mar 23, 2014 0:24:03 GMT -1
Post by peony on Mar 23, 2014 0:24:03 GMT -1
It's a nightmare.
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