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Post by bormes on Jan 30, 2012 11:15:15 GMT -1
If she refuses to meet Mr.Salmond, it says much more about her and how fair a person she is. After all how many people can say they have been invited to meet the First Minister? He is giving her a wonderful opportunity and she should jump at it in my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2012 18:52:53 GMT -1
Well, she may have a reasoned political case but from the Times interview I'm damned if I can see it. Other than the incisively informed opinion that "Everything will go up". Yet she'd be prepared to relocate her business and home to the South East where everything costs a helluva lot more as it is? That's logical
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Post by notanimby on Feb 3, 2012 10:20:36 GMT -1
Ipsos Mori polled 1,005 respondents, the results are:
SNP: 49% Lab: 23% Con: 13% Lib: 10% Gre: 3% SSP: 1% Ind: 1%
The projected Holyrood seats based on the poll is (Difference from 2011 in brackets):
SNP: 73 (+4) Lab: 29 (-8) Lib D: 11 (+6) Con: 14 (-1) Gre: 1 (-1) Ind: 1
Taken from NewsNet Scotland
BBC NEWS - SCOTLAND
Ipsos Mori Poll Shows Labour Support Shoring Up
An Ipsos Mori poll released today shows Labour support in Scotland holding strong, with Labour support possibly stronger than the Tory and Lib-Dem's combined. Johan Lamont said that; "this poll indicates that Scotland rejects the SNP separatist agenda of smarmy Salmond and his separatist band of separatist Cybernats." Lamont pressed this home with; "They are running scared now... so they ur... did I mention separatist?"
Jim Murphy came out of the cupboard to rattle.... sorry... rattle that Alex Salmond and the SNP had lost the argument and an often spotted professor of 'politics of something' from Glasgow university, confirmed that he; "Broadly agreed with whatever it is that the Labour party's position is."
The BBC tried to get a response from the SNP, but unfortunately left it to the new 17yo modern apprentice at Pacific Quay, who only started on Monday.... and never gave her the phone number for Bute House.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2012 19:04:19 GMT -1
Shocking bias! If you add up the Lab, LibDem AND Tory support it's still 3% less than the SNP's Meanwhile news reaches us from SNP HQ that party membership's spiked since David Cameron kicked off his meddling. 2000 have joined the party since the first week of January.
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Post by celyn on Feb 4, 2012 0:23:48 GMT -1
Heheh, I'm shocked at that pool where it shows the LibDem vote going UP.
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Post by minime on Feb 4, 2012 12:01:54 GMT -1
I think in the long term it's not in our best interests to be independent . . sure let's have some autonomy but stay within the union.
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Post by bormes on Feb 4, 2012 16:12:27 GMT -1
Minie,Why? Only someone who lives in the wealthy South East would think like that. If Scotland had already been Independent, then at least two illegal wars would not have any of our youth killed for Oil. That alone is enough for me. I personally think bliar should with bush be tried as war criminals and brown should face some sort of censure for f*cking up our econom, if Goodwin can be censured then why not those who were in fact in charge and who sold all our gold reserves?
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Post by notanimby on Feb 4, 2012 16:17:57 GMT -1
I think in the long term it's not in our best interests to be independent . . sure let's have some autonomy but stay within the union. What interests of Scotland are best served by remaining in the union?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 19:06:59 GMT -1
Mini, many Scots share your view and I imagine all of us here want what's best for the Scottish people.
Have you made your mind up already or are you waiting to hear the solid proposals the Scottish Government in consultation with civic society will put forward in the next few months?
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Post by minime on Feb 5, 2012 11:16:38 GMT -1
Minie,Why? Only someone who lives in the wealthy South East would think like that. If Scotland had already been Independent, then at least two illegal wars would not have any of our youth killed for Oil. That alone is enough for me. I personally think bliar should with bush be tried as war criminals and brown should face some sort of censure for f*cking up our econom, if Goodwin can be censured then why not those who were in fact in charge and who sold all our gold reserves? SE of where? Glasgow? Springburn? If you mean UK then what you're saying is everyone in Scotland wouldn't think like that. All a bit simplistic there and biased - are there indeed any politicians who are able to run an economy successfully and can manage things economic when there are so many events that fall outside of their influence? Sure the idea of being in charge of our own decisions away from London is great but, IMO, not viable in the long term. But hey I'm just a woman in the SE (of Hyndland?).
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Post by minime on Feb 5, 2012 11:17:28 GMT -1
Mini, many Scots share your view and I imagine all of us here want what's best for the Scottish people. Have you made your mind up already or are you waiting to hear the solid proposals the Scottish Government in consultation with civic society will put forward in the next few months? I haven't made up my mind yet.
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Post by notanimby on Feb 5, 2012 15:03:07 GMT -1
I think in the long term it's not in our best interests to be independent . . sure let's have some autonomy but stay within the union. What interests of Scotland are best served by remaining in the union? You forgot to answer this...........
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Post by bormes on Feb 5, 2012 15:33:29 GMT -1
As usual mini, you have ignored questions, Hyndland the S/E of? Yeah I think you are just a wee wummin in the S/E and you know fine which S/E. Why should any country wish another country to run it? What do you and other people who wish to stay under the UK banner think about Eire, should they like Scotland who were forced into the idea of the UK? They used bloodshed to free themselves from the UK Personally I would never encourage that, however I would rather be poorer and be run by our own people, not by those who can only see the wealthy S/E as important. (and if you do not know where I mean, you are more stupid than the wee wummin you think you are.)
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Post by bormes on Feb 5, 2012 15:43:14 GMT -1
Living here in the South of France, particularly after the Rugby yesterday, so many people are talking about Mr. Salmond and Scottish Independence. It is making the news in a way it has never done before. It is bringing about healthy debate, of which I assure everyone on the forum the huge majority of people we speak to whether they are French, Belgian, Italian, American and Dutch so far are of the opinion the Scots should leave what they see as England, not great Britain, they seem to see the UK as only England, which of course the wealthy S/E think we and our oil, whisky soldiers etc., are just there to keep them as they are. London living allowanc my arse, just let them try living in a scheme in Glasgow with the average wage in Scotland and they would consider themselves as wealthy alright.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2012 19:14:09 GMT -1
Living here in the South of France, particularly after the Rugby yesterday, so many people are talking about Mr. Salmond and Scottish Independence. It is making the news in a way it has never done before. It is bringing about healthy debate, of which I assure everyone on the forum the huge majority of people we speak to whether they are French, Belgian, Italian, American and Dutch so far are of the opinion the Scots should leave what they see as England, not great Britain, they seem to see the UK as only England, which of course the wealthy S/E think we and our oil, whisky soldiers etc., are just there to keep them as they are. London living allowanc my arse, just let them try living in a scheme in Glasgow with the average wage in Scotland and they would consider themselves as wealthy alright. Well yes, my experience of talking to people from afar in the past three weeks has been the same, Bormes. The issue of independence was a big talking point at Showcase Scotland. I spoke to people from Canada, US, Australia, India, Ireland, Wales, Catalonia, Italy, Belgium, Holland, Flanders, France, Germany, Denmark, Norway and Finland and the overwhelming view was that if we judge it's right for us, we should go for it. Not one said they'd not do business with us were we independent. How much better would it be if opponents of independence quit the bandwagonesque scaremongering and gave us good solid reasons why the Union's in the interests of the Scottish people. I'm kinda deafened by their silence on that.
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